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    That classic leather buttplate looks fantastic! Well Done!
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    I love it! The original buttplate couldn't have looked better. As always, thanks for sharing. Great work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjtmac View Post
    Got through with the bluing ... done in 2 sessions ... here are pictures of the first session - the larger items ... pictures of the smaller items will be taken tomorrow ...
































    Hopefully the project will be completed in 2 more days ...

    There has been a problem come up ... found that the butt stock has been shortened. The replacement butt stock plates that are available will not fit the end of the stock as it is now sized after the amputation of the stock. So the original leather butt pad is going back on the gun.

    It has been speculated that the butt stock was cut off at the same time the barrel was shortened to 18" ... So this 97 was bobbed on both ends.
    What an incredible job/improvement! What type of bluing are you using, please Sir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Merlin View Post
    What an incredible job/improvement! What type of bluing are you using, please Sir?
    Using Birchwood Casey Cold Blue ...
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    You are indeed an artist sir. I have four 1897 Winchesters and have done some work on three of the four. You had mentioned that you were missing an action slide screw. These are available as hardened upgrade screws. If you fire the shotgun much I would suggest that you look into purchasing the hardened version. I have had to replace two of these. One broke while I was shooting targets, the other I purchased with the broken screw. If these screws break it is an exceedingly difficult task in removing the remnant pieces. When these screws break it is impossible to remove the bolt. Many smiths have drilled the receiver to punch out the remaining broken tail of the screw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjtmac View Post
    Using Birchwood Casey Cold Blue ...
    I am going through your previous threads but.... Do any particularly come to mind that have a focus on your bluing process? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1Merlin View Post
    I am going through your previous threads but.... Do any particularly come to mind that have a focus on your bluing process? Thanks!
    They only things that are in the threads about the bluing process are pretty simple ... Application of the bluing according to the instructions as much as your particular metal will allow.

    The other and MAIN segment of the process as always is the PREP. If you don't want a dent or scratch to show it has to be removed. Same for pits and rust damage - if you don't want it to show it must be gone - not just sanded over and made as smooth as you can make it - gotta be gone. To have a smooth and consistent bluing applications it has to be applied to a smooth and consistant finished prepped surface.

    I have said before the minimum metal prep time for me is around 10-11 hours and many more times than not this is no where near enough. My bluing is all in the prep because that is what I can control. Birchwood Casey makes their product and I have to trust it will do it's job ... but I am sure in their mind the success of their product depends on my prep for it's use. No way around this fact, metal prep is everything.

    I have logged right at 16.5 hours on prepping the 97. Luckily the barrel was cut off 12" or it would have been more ... LOL

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    6) Time, time, time and more time - just be ready mentally for the long haul

    Might want to keep a pad and pencil handy - to write down all of the special word combinations you can create trying to get all of your damage taken care of. With frustration and lack of success some original and new combinations just seem to flow out into audible expressions.

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    Patience and hard work. As in so many things in life. I've listened and heard. I will try a project and post my progress.

    Thank You.
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    I just copied and saved your statements on blueing prep. Thanks, Mac.
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    Got the 97 back together ... hopefully the owner will like the outcome.




































    pics cont. next post ...


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