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    Same thing happened in the 70's when Leisure Group bought up a number of sporting goods manufactures including Lyman, Hi-Standard, Ben Pearson Archery and Sierra. Some of the companies, Hi Standard especially, had a drop in quality, but they all seem to have recovered their independence and quality. I hope that Remington and Marlin do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CtYankee View Post
    Same thing happened in the 70's when Leisure Group bought up a number of sporting goods manufactures including Lyman, Hi-Standard, Ben Pearson Archery and Sierra. Some of the companies, Hi Standard especially, had a drop in quality, but they all seem to have recovered their independence and quality. I hope that Remington and Marlin do the same.
    I hope this is the case for all of FG's firearms holdings, rather than dropping off the map!
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    I hold "The Truth About Guns" in high regard. While the popular gun-review model was to hand over a factory picked gun to a "gun writer" who was invited to some nice place with the rest of his "gun-writer" buddies and eat and drink on the company while they reviewed a piece of crap and sluffed it off as "the trigger is a little heavy but a gunsmith can fix it, accuracy is about a hunting-acceptable 2 moa" and I've read where one reviewer sent the rifle back because it was so bad rather than reporting it that way.

    Enter The Truth About Guns:

    Gun Review: Marlin 1894C .357 Magnum - The Truth About Guns

    To their credit, they've also reviewed good Marlins as being good but the above article caused an ex-communication in the church of gun writers. IMO, no major loss till the gunwriter community either regains their integrity or goes away all together.

    Freedom Group... I hope it breaks up like the Soviet Union and each company somehow gets a new lease on life.
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    I do to. Though i don't always agree with them, and sometimes get tired of their particular brand of humor, they certainly calls'em likes they sees'em, which I respect.
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    If yo guys want a Handi, go to the popular auction site and type "handi". There is an outfit out of Mississippi selling theirs off for $212 with $25 shipping, you can't beat the price.

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    Too the bean counters, in a conglomerate, old line companies are just chess pieces in the game.

    High Standard mentioned, was building guns from parts found left over in shelves and drawers. Guns that shot 2 feet high or low, due to the sights not being correct, or even close to correct.

    It will take a few years for the market "to correct" as well.

    The ammo shortage is starting too level out, maybe guys will start shooting in local matches again. Its sure dropped off around here. And when they do, they will want the newest fastest gun too race.
    Does it occur to those that believe that the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence, may be because that guy takes the time to take care of his grass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reload View Post
    Miroku Marlin, than your JM Marlin rifles will double in price.
    At least if the Japanese start making Marlins, they'll likely make a better product than Remington was willing to. You wouldn't know any of my Brownings were made there until you look at the barrel stamp.
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    Had to happen--I mean it only took 1-2 production cycles after Remington bought Marlin for a simple robust well respected brand to become undesirable simply because some person smart in finance had no clue what to offer the gun buying public.
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    The phrase I remember when asked WHY remington bought Marlin, if they were only going to close it was..........."We saw low hanging fruit, and if we could squeeze that low hanging fruit a little harder, it would bear more juice".....................In other words, they saw the potential to squeeze the company, the company policies, the MFG process AND the workers!

    Whatever "rains down" on FGI, remington and Cerberus in the coming year.................I applaud it!............'couldn't happen to a more deserving Network of NitWits!


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    It would not bother me a bit to see FGI, Remington, Cerberus collapse. All my Marlins are JM's and have no desire to purchase a substandard remlin, (yes, I have handled plenty of remlins to know that I don't like them).

    Ruger makes a fine if even over built firearm, would not mind seeing them buy the Marlin rights.
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