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    30-30 commercial ammo if all else is equal

    I know, I know. Everyone has their favorite. But why?

    I'd love to get the combined wisdom of this forum on the subject of "best" 30-30 ammo. I'm wondering about (i) brand less than (ii) bullet weight. Let's dismiss premium ammo (190-grain Buffalo Bore, expensive copper solids, etc). The question has to do with 125 grain, 150 grain, 160 grain Hornady LR, and 170 grain. This assumes that there is little difference among the 150 and 170 grain loadings of the major manufacturers.

    My dear old deceased dad (who is most definitely getting smarter all the time) advocated heavier bullets (in this case, 170 grain) in moderate-velocity cartridges. He argued that in flesh and bone, 170 grains at 2200 fps is more potent than 150 grains at 2350, especially at typical 30-30 distances.

    His opinion seems to be born out by the manufacture and sale of obsolete calibers. I've heard it said that as calibers lose their demand, the demand that remains is for heavier bullets.

    As an aside, why would Winchester 170 grainers be $1 per 20 cheaper than 170 grain Remingtons?

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    Winchester Silver tips in either 150 or 170 grains. But now I load my own and haven't bought any factory ammo in a couple yrs. now.

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    Federal 150 or 170gr
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    I have used Win and Feds in 150/170grs and never had a problem with downing a hog or deer. Good luck...
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    Cool

    Federal Blue Box 150 and 170 grain ammo. Bass Pro sells it for about $18.50 a box.

    Its very consistent ammo, I get good distance and accuracy from this ammo, despite my shooting skills are not what they use to be. I'm working on it.

    What good is a particular caliber of a particular kind of ammo if you can't afford to shoot it? I see a lot of 22 owners crying the blues about the prices, and their right. At one time folks could get into target shooting at a reasonable price. Low cost of buying a rifle, and even lower price of buying ammo. I see a lot of 22's for sale these days. I'll stick with my 30-30's for range practice and a little fun!



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    In all honesty, go with what ever factory load your rifle likes the best.... Any factory load whether 150 or 170gr is going to kill a deer or hog as long as you put the bullet in the right place.
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    they all work when when the right spot is hit.
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    In my limited experiences;

    Winchester "silver tips". The new silver tips do not perform as well as the sixties vintage. I'm thinking it's because the tip material is different than the old silver alloy. My experience and observation based on one deer, while accurate I wasn't impressed by performance.

    Remington. I like them. Good accurate ammo. I like the way 170's perform on deer. Usually pass through, with expansion and energy delivery adequate by observation difference of entrance/exit wound.I keep going back to green box 170's.

    Federal blue box. Like the remmie ammo, good and accurate. I have not taken game with them but from what I hear and read, I think they are very close to remmie .


    I compare my rifle's with different flavor's to see if one performs better. So far all have shot remington well. My savage 24 definently like's the rem green box over anything else, showing tighter group's

    I like heavy bullets so aside from testing, I usually choose 170's for hunting.
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    So far my Marlin 30-30 likes Remington 170's better than Winchester or Federal. Now that is just shooting off the hood of my truck. Don't know why but I can tell the difference in the tighter groups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LibertyTexas View Post



    My dear old deceased dad (who is most definitely getting smarter all the time) advocated heavier bullets (in this case, 170 grain) in moderate-velocity cartridges. He argued that in flesh and bone, 170 grains at 2200 fps is more potent than 150 grains at 2350, especially at typical 30-30 distances.

    As an aside, why would Winchester 170 grainers be $1 per 20 cheaper than 170 grain Remingtons?
    With deference to your Dad, I don't think that 170's are necessary for most hunting in terms of "potency". In my experience, 150's blow through deer like they were nothing. In the big game section of this site, there is a thread about a member who shoots 1000 pound feral cattle with his 30-30 using 150 grain bullets. He says he has never recovered any 150 from one of those scrub bulls as they all exit, even 150 grain hollow points. A lot of people use 170's because they group better in many Marlins, probably because they are a little longer. But, I think the reality is that a 30-30 is a slow enough round that it is not going to over expand lighter bullets like a lot of the more modern faster rounds can do and they all do pretty much the same.

    For factory ammo, my current favorite is Winchester 150 grain Power Max loads, but I understand that they now make them in 170 too. I hope I can find another box or two before next season. I think they might expand a little wider on deer than some of the others but it may be my imagination.

    Lots of times these ammo companies play games with one another with their pricing....probably trying to steal market share. I doubt that there is not a hill of beans worth of difference on game between 170 grain Winchester or Remington loads except that individual rifles will group one better than the other.


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