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    Federal 30-30 170 nosler partition

    I recently came full circle when I saw a add for a 1969 336 30-30 in good condition . I started hunting 40 years ago with a 336 30-30 and as it would happen after a few years of success i decided i needed a 270 and that was where the odesey of more and more extreme rifles began . and after more rifles than i care to talk about i am back hunting with 30-30 and am loving it . My question is does any body use the federal premiun nosler partitions? I went with my old stand by ammo 170 gr. Rem cor-lokts . I shot a 225lb boar with one at approx 60yds. It dropped at the shot and did not get up . When i went over to him 2hrs later he was very much alive just shot kinda high in the sholder but missed the lungs and was realy pissed . After finishing him off i noticed i didnt get a pass through with the inital shot . the bullit seemed to semi explode . Does this sound normal ? On a side note i was at my folks house for the holidays and found a box of my 30-30 cartridges from the 80's, up on closed examination it is obvious they have different projectiles. Any how I am wanting the best 30-30 ammo I can get. I get to hunt a river swamps hear in Louisiana where mature bucks reach weights over 250lbs.and am looking for a load that will work on almost any forward shot angle . The partitions seam to show promise. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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    Was that a boar hog, or a boar bear? I'd look into the partition bullets, but haven't used them yet. I did have a 170 Speer blow up on a quartering toward buck that I never recovered. I got one bone chip, followed him over four hills, and a neighbor shot him after I lost him.

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    Cor loks might be to thin of a jacket. Designed more for whitetail. There are a lot of other bullets that would be better suited for large boars, the Partition being one that comes to mind. 30 cal bullets are very popular so you should not have any problem loading up something fast and solid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Youper View Post
    Was that a boar hog, or a boar bear? I'd look into the partition bullets, but haven't used them yet. I did have a 170 Speer blow up on a quartering toward buck that I never recovered. I got one bone chip, followed him over four hills, and a neighbor shot him after I lost him.
    Sorry for not being clear it was a boar hog . We have plenty of those but they seldom top 300lb. Broad side shots are preferred but more than once I have had to deal with deer facing me and blood trails are essential in the palmetto thickets and that is my motivation for more penetration
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    It isn't always easy to find out what a particular bullet is designed for (designed to do). It may require visits to the maker's website, or even a phone call. Generally the heavier bullets are made to expand more slowly and penetrate deeper. But as you have seen, it may not always be the case. Fortunately there are many makers of good premium bullets.

    This can be taken too far, also, in not having enough expansion and the bullet acting essentially as a full metal jacket bullet, just going right on through the animal.

    Look for bullets that are intended to expand to the degree you want, at the velocities you will be driving them. If you're shooting a 180 gr bullet intended for 300 Weatherby Mag velocities of 3100-3200 fps, you may only see minimal expansion when you push them to 2100 fps from your 30-30. It's not the bullet's fault.

    If you reload, you can control for these variables. And you may want to test your ammo for terminal performance.

    Good luck.
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    Leadfeather - thanks for this inquiry.

    I've thought about the 170 Nosler Partition for my 30-30, but have never tried it.

    I do have quite a bit of experience with Nosler Partitions, going back to the 1970's. Normally what I've found is that they're surprisingly accurate, and that they work well on game.

    The front portion is designed to be rather "soft" to promote rapid expansion. Can even just come apart. The rear core hangs together and usually (not always) penetrates right through game. In fact, the only Nosler Partition I've recovered from game was a 200 gr Partition started at 2600 fps from my 30-06 rifle, which hit a grizzly at about 25 - 30 yards. The bullet was recovered while we were skinning the bear.


    As you can see, the front end is pretty much gone. I hit him with two more shots, and those bullets were not recovered. Fair sized bear for an arctic grizzly:


    I remain a big fan of the Partition, after all these years. Normally that front end expands rapidly, and the back part of the bullet continues driving forward into the vitals, and often exiting the animal. A 175 gr 7mm Partition punched right through a big bull elk for me nearly 20 years ago. He only managed a few faltering steps after being hit:


    And years before that there was a 140 pound wild hog that took a 180 gr Nosler Partition from a 300 Win Mag at about 40 yards. One and done, bullet exit. However muzzle velocity on that one was likely around 3,000 fps, something the 30-30 isn't known for.

    Not the same bullet or cartridge you're asking about, but I thought I'd throw in a bit of Nosler Partition experience I've acquired over the past 40+ years. I'd think you should try the 170 Nosler Partition on a few more animals. Check to see if it's producing the terminal results you want, then make a decision.


    Regards, Guy

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    https://www.marlinowners.com/forum/a...wk-35-rem.html

    This is part of ongoing test that get done before I chose any bullet to hunt with, note some 30-30 bullets tested. Anyway, in this test and others the Winchester 170gr Power Point has always been the best by far for penetration of the common 170gr 30-30 loads/bullets. Having said do use the 170 partition but that is in a 308 BLR at 2500 fps.
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    From what I hear the boar has a thick, bone like cartilage plate high on the shoulder. I would think the Nosler Partition would be just the ticket. Like M700 I have used them in other calibers with great results and thought about loading some for my 307 Winchester.
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    For the bigger tougher stuff Buffalo Bore makes a laod with the 190 grain Hawk bullet. They have a video on you Tube of a bull moose taken with that load. Lots of 30-30 bullets are designed for deer. winchester used ot maek teh silver tips that were supposed to be more controlled epansion adn then there is the Federal Fusion. For deer most of the offerings are pretty good, for something like a large heavy boned hog I think the 190 Hawks might be the best.

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    use the Nosler's - you'll never have to try anyhing else.....I shoot the 170gr partition mostly but also shoot 163gr hcgc ....either way - big boar is done....when you see what the partitions do you'll start believing the ol 30-30 is a grizzly gun - elk, moose, - you just have to get within range and put the bullet where it goes
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