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    I had a similar discussion on another board about .308W vs 30-06. Same argument there - at practical hunting distances (up to 300 yds) there is no real difference between them up to 180 grains bullets. 30-06 is more versatile, but exactly how many guys take advantage of that versatility by shooting 190 gr or heavier bullets out of their 30-06?

    As another poster here mentioned, the target market for 450M was guys who wanted souped-up 45-70 performance without having to reload.

    Nothing wrong with 450M. Nothing wrong with reloading for 450M. But if you want a really fast 350 gr bullet, step up to a 450NE 31/4", a 458 WM, or a 458 Lott.

    I'm pretty happy with my 45-70 pushing BTB 525 gr at 1625, and still about 2.5 gr below max load. I'd use that combo for any animal on earth, except elephant.

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    My first new rifle was a 308 back in early 60s when they weren't cool. You could not get through that the same bullet fired at the same velocity are equal.
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    Yup. 30-06 is *generally* about 100-200 fps faster for any given bullet weight, but that only translates to somewhat flatter trajectories at distances most people have no business shooting wild game, and assumes 200 or 300 yd zeroes.

    For purposes of this thread, same thing applies to 45-70 v 450M. There's just no appreciable difference on the business end, so shoot what you're comfortable shooting accurately.

    If you really want to push a 350 gr bullet well past 2K fps, an upgrade to a NE or one of the 458 magnums is in order; just like if you want to push a .308" 180 gr or heavier at around 3K fps, need to switch to a 300 WM/H&H mag.
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