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    Try different powders & work on finding a good load. Get some input from 450 reloaders here. Try the reloading section under ammunition.
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    Try Speer bullets. Work great for me.

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    My loads are 52 grains of Re7 and a Speer 300 JHP (really a flat point with a small dimple). I also shoot the 350 JFP and the 400 JFP with lesser charges of Re7. Just watch the 350 gain bullets as there are 2 different ones. One is too long to cycle if crimped in the ring.
    Same loads work well in the 45-70 as well
    Always better to carry "too much" gun and too many cartridges...
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    I assume the 1895 450 Marlin shoots the same as the 1895 45-70. Are you using iron sights? I didn't load 45-70 until this last year and I agree it can be frustrating. While it seems any load will shoot 3 MOA, but once you try to better that, the 45-70 can be very picky. Most of my bullets are 300gr, both cast, plated, and JHP. Powders have been from Unique, 2300, IMR 4198, H4895, IMR 3031 and now I have box loaded with Varget (the powder I load for 308 ). One thing I have discovered is my 1895 CBA shoots best with a clean barrel and jacketed bullets. I remembered one poster complain that every five shot group at MOA, always has a flier and I have experience that also, especially with cast.
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    I did use irons at first but realized that my irons were a problem so I topped it with a scope and the groups shrunk by half. Once I get a load I might switch back to the original irons that I didn't have a problem with.

    I also looked back at my previous loading attempts and I realized that the common denominator with the bad groups was the bullet. I found a random target with one of the Sierra loads and realized that it was acceptable once I tempered my expectations. Right now I'm working on an FTX load due to a sale at F&S. Hopefully I'll be able to get out one of these days to test them around my work/hunting schedule.

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    When I started loading for my 1895 M 450 I pulled a bullet and dumped the powder in a scale, it weighed 58.0gr and it was a fine grain powder. I looked up loads in manuals and internet for 350 gr Hornady bullets and ball powder with 58.0 gr. I found H322 in Hornady data that listed 58.0 as max with the 350 FN Hornady at 2200fps! I loaded this combo and it chronographed exactly as factory loads and it also shot at the same POI with the same 1" groups at 100 yds! I have been using this load for years now and even tried this load in other rifles and it works great in those also! BTW I tried the 325 gummies in mine and a friends rifles and it didn't shoot well in either rifle! Just FYI!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stosh View Post
    When I started loading for my 1895 M 450 I pulled a bullet and dumped the powder in a scale, it weighed 58.0gr and it was a ball powder. I look up loads in manuals and internet for 350 gr Hornady bullets and ball powder with 58.0 gr. I found H322 in Hornady data that listed 58.0 as max with the 350 FN Hornady at 2200fps! I loaded this combo and it chronographed exactly as factory loads and it also shot at the same POI with the same 1" groups at 100 yds! I have been using this load for years now and even tried this load in other rifles and it works great in those also! BTW I tried the 325 gummies in mine and a friends rifles and it didn't shoot well in either rifle! Just FYI!
    My rifle seems to like the factory FTX. I'm happy with the accuracy but I can't find them locally for under $38 a box. I'm got some gummies on clearance and I'm going to try an H4198 load. If that doesn't go well, I'm gonna pick up H322 and some of the Interlocks you're talking about.

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    Speer 300 HP and Reloader 7 works great for me.

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    Last edited by Stosh; 05-05-2019 at 10:09 AM. Reason: duplicate

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    When it comes to straight walls, I go right to Re7.
    Never hunted pigs but hearing the horror stories, I would go with the Hornady 350 JFP. Same bullet that they used to load in factory ammo. Tough jacket. 300 and 405 are designed to open up more. The Remingtons were the worst for over expansion
    Last edited by Bill2311; 05-11-2019 at 07:43 AM.
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    Always better to carry "too much" gun and too many cartridges...
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