I have been using Missouri Bullet Company and their 405 coated Hi-Tek and they seem to work fine. I like them but I am wanting to widened my gaze so to speak. I currently load them from 1400 to 1700 depending on the powder. I also just loaded up a couple dozen with Trail Boss and they should be around a 1000 FPS out of my Cowboy.
Does anyone have any experience loading a little heavier bullets with The goal of staying in the 1250-1350 FPS ? Say...460 - 485 grain range?
It looks like H4198 might work as well as IMR 4064. The Cowboy will mostly be just for fun but I am sure it will get a shot or two on deer and hogs this year. My GBL is the opposite. I will use my GBL mostly for hunting and a little for plinking.
Also, which bullets do you recommend in the 460 - 485 ish range?
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have a Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook? If not you need one. There are a bunch of cast bullets makers making .459 bullets. If you google "cast bullet makers" you will get a dozen or two makers. Some are handgun sizes only. But some make up to 525 gr or more in .459. I'm assuming you want to buy, not cast your own. I buy also. I like Missouri and King Shooter.
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Does the Lyman Cast Book give load data or does it just teach you how to cast the bullets? I have an older Lyman load book but it only goes up to 420 grains.
Yeah, I will be buying the cast bullets because I catch enough grief at home for how much time I spend hand loading. I could only imagine how much trouble I would stay in if I spent all the time needed for casting my own. Some day I will. Just not today I am afraid.
Well I'm a bit above your listed velocity as I look for accuracy and my 465gr Wide Flat Nose does an awesome job on deer and elk at 1650fps, of course always with proper shot placement.
I don't seek expansion, if it happens it happens, so be it, but with the WFN simply don't need it.
Now, AVOID warp velocities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tried a 355gr WFN at 2300fps and it was all kinds of excessively devastating!
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Found in a big cow elk, not the one pictured, after a quartering shot. Bullet lost it's nose on the big heavy upper front leg bone then still traveled about another 30" Went from 465gr to 327.9gr. Range about a 100yds or a bit more. Elk pictured was taken at about 150yds.
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Lyman 4th edition cast manual data. If you are shooting a PBB no gas check, you may need to stay below 500 gr if you want 1,300-1,400 fps. If you switch to a GC design you have more room on the higher pressure/velocity side.
- IMR-4198 Start 28.0 @ 1,350 / Max 32.0 @ 1,420
- IMR-3031 Start 37.0 @ 1,310 / Max 40.0 @ 1,410
- 5744 Start 26.5 @ 1,250 / Max 28.0 @ 1,320
- IMR-4198 Start 28.5 @ 1,1,10 / Max 31.5 @ 1,285
- IMR-3031 Start 38.0 @ 1,070 / Max 42.0 @ 1,330
- 5744. Start 25.0 @ 1,080 / Max 28.0 @ 1,185
PS: These loads are from the Trapdoor guidance where max pressure is in the 17,500 range. Well within safe pressure range for modern rifles.
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