Comparing the OAL of my first two factory ammo purchases (Brass for rolling my own)
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    Comparing the OAL of my first two factory ammo purchases (Brass for rolling my own)

    I was curious what the OAL is for the Winchester 405gr Cowboy loads compared to the HSM 430gr +P HC "Bear Loads". My Lymans 49th has the max OAL at 2.550. The results:

    HSM ( 5 rounds checked on dial caliper )

    2.501 - 2.502

    Winchester ( 5 rounds that I had cycled thru a couple times )

    2.507 - 2.518 ( I expected less of a variance )

    Winchester ( 5 rounds that HAD NOT been cycled )

    2.509 - 2.520

    What OAL are ya'll using?

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    Simple...........2.5" or wherever the crimp groove is on the bullet.
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    Proper COL for the Marlin 1895’s is determined by the nose shape of the bullet you’re reloading. A pointy bullet can have a longer COL, than say a cast bullet with a large meplat.

    But all reloads need to be cycled thru your rifle to check their function… most COL problems occur at the loading gate.

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    Ok. I'll be using flat nose. So load a few and check that they cycle before proceeding…got it.
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    kwesi – With a new bullet, I start by building a dummy load, no primer or powder.
    Then I can get the COL correct first… With some of the big meplats the COL will go ~2.50”.
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    kwesi,

    As for brass for reloading, you will be waaaaay ahead to not mix brands of brass, not even counting the fact that it is much more expensive to buy factory ammo then to just buy new brass.

    About the best deal you'll find is to buy new Starline brass. About a 1/3 less cost then buying Winchester or Remington and stay away from the Hornady FTX ammo as they use a non- standard brass length and the FTX bullet is very fragile and destructive if bone or heavy muscle is hit. Yes, I've seen it first hand.

    I prefer NOT to deal directly with Starline, but they have a great product.

    I like to go to places like Buffalo Arms for my Starline 45/70 brass. Those companies either have the product or they don't and your not hung up with some iffy production schedule.

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    Rowdy & Crusty: I will make a dummy round before the presses run. I'm on Starline's list when they produce our brass next year. I was aware of the problem with Hornady brass. Are there any current sources to pickup Starline? Thx for the suggestion not to mix brass. My two factory boxes are Winchester & Starline.

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    Just checked the Buffalo Arms web site and they are B.O. on all 45/70 brass. Most of the lists say orders welcome, so they could probably give you an idea of when they expect the Starline order.

    I have seen other folk post about availability from Weidners and other sources, so just checking the net could turn up some brass.

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    Yep been checking several places but all on BO.


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