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    Here piggy piggy

    A while back I shot a fair sized feral hog broadside behind the shoulder at about 80 yards with one of my Steyr 376s pushing a 270 grain Hornady Spire Point 2600 fps at muzzle. The hog dropped at the shot, never even kicked. With over 4000 ft. pounds of muzzle energy, those results were expected. I also expected an exit hole. There was none. I like exits and blood trails soooo...I bought some 220 grain Lehigh Defense Extreme Penetrators and cooked up a batch of 444 Marlin cartridges.



    I had been experimenting with the Penetrators last year but put them aside for some reason. Then, a few months ago I saw a thread by fellow member, mt_sourdough, and discovered I wasn't the only one putting the extreme Penetrators in 444 cases. We traded load data. sourdough was way ahead of me in load development although we were both using the same powder. His data saved me a lot of time. My loads aren't quite as hot as his but should give around 2400 fps. I look forward to trying them out on the hoard of feral hogs we have. I should get exits with these babies!!!



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    Nasty lookin bullets!

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    Those are evil looking rounds!!!
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    According to the bullet manufacturer, Lehigh Defense,

    The progressive nose geometry allows for deep, straight penetration while creating a permanent wound cavity diameter exceeding that of most expanding bullets. To top it off, the bullet is solid copper or brass, and is able to overcome barriers to penetration; environmentally friendly, target unfriendly, very unfriendly, downright obnoxiously unfriendly.
    The magic happens with the nose design where the radial flutes force the hydraulic energy inward and then as the energy is restricted, it accelerates outward creating high pressure spikes damaging surrounding tissue. Kind of similar to sticking your thumb over a garden hose. You can see the radial pressure spikes in the gel pictures. Each crack showing in the gel represents a permanent wound. The permanent wound cavity of the XP is from two to four times greater than what a flat or ball nose bullet generates and often larger than traditional expanding bullets. So what you get is exceptional penetration coupled with a larger permanent wound cavity. Look at the data chart, no other bullet gives you this wound volume.

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    Hell, I just want to kill what I shoot don't want to prevent it from getting in Hawg Heaven. What kind of groups can you expect with those fancy flutes? I would have expected the 270gr Speer to exit. I have some of them but never loaded any, in 375H&H. I've only shot 3 hogs with a rifle 30/06 with 170gr Rem CLs at 2400fps. Shoots were 125yds and hogs were about 125lbs. They were on the run and I didn't get classic hits but all three exited and they flopped a little but were dead by the time I got to them. They were escapees from pay to hunt operation.
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    mt-sourdough is getting sub moa with this loads scooting along around 2500 fps. I have yet to try my batch. I just loaded them two days ago.

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    Be sure to give us some field reports TS!




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    One 308ME monoflex at about 50yrds!
    Ok, ok wrong thread but I can only get those for my t4 from Kevin at Underwood’s, made me jealous!
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    Very interested in your results. While I am satisfied with my current personal choices in the T4 I would like to try these to see what kind of penetration they have.

    Is the load data a closely held family secret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vooch View Post
    Be sure to give us some field reports TS!
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