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    Hey everyone. I have a 70’s model 444s. I purchased some reloading dies to start reloading spent brass. My rifle does not shoot the 265 grain lever evaluation round well. It does however shoot the 265 FTX flat nose Hornady round very well. I had already purchased Hornady Leverevelution powder. Does anyone know of that powder can be used for the FTX bullet as well? I am fairly new to reloading. I started last year reloading my .308 ammo and have gotten it down to a tack driving round at 200 yards with 40.6 grains of powder. Looking to do the same with my .444. And save money from $40+ per box of 20. Also, any thoughts on Hornady 300 grain FTX loads. Thanks!

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    I have very good accuracy with H322. My load is 52gr H322, Hornady 265 FlatNose, Fed 210M in an R-P case - 2217 fps with an SD of 7, Accuracy about MOA, killed a 6 point bull with it at about 55 yards. I didn't care for the way the 265 broke up, good for deer though.
    I have used 47 gr H322 under Speer 300gr for 2002 with SD of 6 and MOA at 100 yards.Haven't shot anything with the Speer 300 gr (discontinued?). I have also used Leadheads 265 gr Cast GC bullet with excellent accuracy with full power loading.
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    Most 444 microgroove rifles do not shoot 300gr bullets accurately at distance. The 265 flat point has a good reputation. I favor H335 for 444 loading.
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    I've had the best luck with H-4198 powder with the 265gr Hornady Flat Point Bullets.


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    I my 444s 1-38 twist microgroove I have used nothing but 300gr. hornady XTPHP and at 100yds off a bench they will consistently cut the same hole or shoot a one hole group. they are accurate! and they kill deer dead! 41gr. of H4198,,,,,,,,,,,,
    I have never harvested an animal but I have KILLED QUITE A FEW !

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    I’m looking at my Hornady 9th edition loading data book and Lever evoultion powder isn’t even listed with any of there .444 Marlin bullets.
    I use Hornady 265 grain flat points, 42.6 grains of IMR 4198. I can easily cover the 3 shot group with a quarter at 100 yards.
    good luck.
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    My 444 is a pre-safety pistol grip 22" barrel 1971 production, has the magazine attached like the early straight grips with band around magazine tube and is Micro-groove. I have had good results with 300 grains bullets at full speed, have/had very old 8lb bottle of H322, haven't had reason to try anything else. I would use the 265 FN Hornady for everything but elk. Without H322, I would go to Accurate 2015 first, then H4198. I have used Unique and 5744 with 240 gr bullets for 'fun/practice' loads. I have stoned the trigger so it is about 2lbs, 10oz and did a 'light' fire-polish to smooth the bore, shortened stock, added Limbsaver. I use a Burris 4.5-14x42 off-season and a Leupold VX-3i 1.75-6x32 for hunting. I have been more than pleased with the accuracy peviously mentioned, my groups are 5 shot groups.
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    4198 and RL-7 are the best options behind the 265 FP.
    RL-7 is still a good option with the 300 gr XTP.

    But there are plenty of other powders that do just fine, as well. H335, H322, RL-10X (dirty, but people like it), Accurate 1680, and on down the line...

    Look at published load data, and see what's listed.

    Lately, I've even been experimenting with CFE-223. (There's zero data available for that combination. It's on the slow side and not ideal. ...But I'm curious.)
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    I have 1 question since your rifle shoots the FTX well but not the 265 gr FP. Are you keeping the Hornady short FTX brass, separate from the standard length? I did not see that mentioned in the post. What makes that easier to do is Hornady makes both lengths, so the headstamps are the same.
    Have a great day.
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    XTP is the gummy tip and they make a leverevolution powder for hand loading. Thera an alphabet soup for bullets. Are you loading the 265 grain interlock.?
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