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    Quote Originally Posted by Trackerbuddy View Post
    XTP is the gummy tip and they make a leverevolution powder for hand loading. Thera an alphabet soup for bullets. Are you loading the 265 grain interlock.?
    FTX from Hornady:.....referred to as gummy tips
    Flex Tip technology is the name Hornady has given to the bullet design in their FTX line of ammunition. This ammo line covers a wide range of calibers and name brands, and is a replacement for the old hollow points used for home defense and concealed carry weapons.

    xtp: eXtreme Terminal Performance....more commonly known as hollow points

    leverevolution_1_lb-1024x1024.jpg suitable for the 224 Valkyrie, 25-35 Winchester, 30-30 Winchester, 308 and 338 Marlin Express, 338 Federal and 35 Remington.
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    I use IMR4198 for the 444 and 45/70 both shoot about 99% cast boolits for me
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    Some memory here but hunted elk for 20 yrs with a 1973 model 444 using 265 FP pushed by H4198 at 47 grains, took its share of elk but switched out 10 yrs ago to BT 290 Hard Cast pushed by 45 grains of H4198 when it got difficult to find 265's, never looked back. I use the 265's in my 44 mag for bear loads. The H4198 powder also feeds my MIA1.
    I always try to find powders and can feed more then just one caliber being cost effective.
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    ditch the hornady pointy tips for the Speer 270gr GDs or hornady 265gr SPs. My perfect choice would be a 300gr SJSP...but then again its never a perfect world so I also reload with beartooth 280gr and 300gr cast loads
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    Quote Originally Posted by asst4202 View Post
    Hey everyone. I have a 70’s model 444s. I purchased some reloading dies to start reloading spent brass. My rifle does not shoot the 265 grain lever evaluation round well. It does however shoot the 265 FTX flat nose Hornady round very well. I had already purchased Hornady Leverevelution powder. Does anyone know of that powder can be used for the FTX bullet as well? I am fairly new to reloading. I started last year reloading my .308 ammo and have gotten it down to a tack driving round at 200 yards with 40.6 grains of powder. Looking to do the same with my .444. And save money from $40+ per box of 20. Also, any thoughts on Hornady 300 grain FTX loads. Thanks!
    JWLEEPER alluded to this, but I think the point was lost. Be careful if your intent is to reload those Leverevolution cases with the FTX. I refer to the Leverevolution as the .444 short because the cases are cutdown to fit the gummy tips in the gun. You will have to measure them to know which is which. I would just throw out the .444 Short cases and handload or buy the FTXs. They are great bullets with far superior terminal ballistics.
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    I've had good results with IMR 4198 and H-335. Having an eight pound jug of H-335 has me using it exclusively.
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    Since Hodgdon seems to discourage anyone reloading a 444 case with its Leverevolution powder I started wondering if the factory Leverevolution 444 Marlin ammo is loaded with it. Has anyone looked into that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hatchman View Post
    Since Hodgdon seems to discourage anyone reloading a 444 case with its Leverevolution powder I started wondering if the factory Leverevolution 444 Marlin ammo is loaded with it. Has anyone looked into that?
    You'd think they'd have to have a reason. Vituvori has a powder that gives max velocity with the 444. I used IMR 4198 in the past with very good results, but there are more choices today.

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    I use the 265 Innerlock and FTX. A while back I ran them through the QL ballistic calculator both at 2250 fps with a 150yd zero. FTX, +1.7" @93yds, -4.6" @ 200yds, -12.7" @ 250yds. Interlock, +1.8" @ 92yds, -5" @ 200, -14" @ 250yds. Going off of that the difference is insignificant to me.
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    all loads are with a tc encore and 24" MGM barrel

    265gr hornady fn with 41.0gr of h4198


    200gr hornady xtp with 16.5gr of trail boss

    275gr ranch dog with 41.0gr of rel7

    275gr ranch dog with 40.0gr of h4198

    280gr lfn gc with 41.5gr of rel7

    280gr lfn gc with 42.0gr of h4198

    250gr mihek hp with 11.5gr of unique

    220gr wc with 13.0gr of unique

    300gr fn gc with 24.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacro
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