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    Whatever you get him I'm sure he'll love it and learn to use it well. I actually enjoy shooting with the shorter length of pull from time to time.
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    Agree on the 'JM' Arky if possible ...........my 'Y' model went back to the factory twice. They did straighten it up however. Shoots very nice groups, functions well. That said, hope they have got it together now as many young folks like Groundpounder's son deserve to have, and should expect, a safe functional firearm.

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    If you are set on a 30/30....

    Work up a light cast boolit load he can shoot so he can gain familiarity without the full blast of the 30/30... Say a 120 grain pill over a light charge of Unique would be the ticket...
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    Agree with many on this thread, go with a youth model 336 with light handloads. When the time is right, purchase a new stock set and he has this gun for life. Where I come from you keep / inherent the gun you killed your first deer with.

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    I started my daughter with a 30-30. She went through MN required hunter safety program and was 12. First year she got a couple of deer with it and a coupel or three more afterwards. I bought her the 150 grain loads as they do have less recoil than the 170. It was a cowboy model with a 24" barrel. My son got his first deer at 14 with a Lee Enfield 303 and 150 grain handloads. I gave my Son in law's family a 243 for Christmas. Grandson got his deer with it. I would recommend doing what has been suggested and cut down the stock and replace it as he grows into it. Use slip on reoil pads for the intermediate times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by truckjohn View Post
    I don't recommend a 30/30 for a first gun for a youngster.

    Remember that it's a full power/full caliber hunting rifle. And it's light.... And kids are FAR more recoil sensitive than adults....

    That means it kicks pretty hard on a kid's smaller frame. That can really sour kids...

    A much better choice is a 223, 7.62x39, or 357 mag.

    So for example - a single shot break open 357 mag is strong deer medicine inside 100 yards - but he can practice with cheap and easy shooting 38spl to gain the muscle memory. A single shot break open 223 is also great and it won't beat the kid up...

    All 3 of these have ammo that runs ~ 1/2 the cost of 30/30... Ammo is easy to find... Soft shooting.... And will 100% do the job if you do your part....

    Move up to a 30/30 when he is in his older teens and has put on some meat and is pushing adult size..
    I can add a European flyer in here too.
    Most youngsters I train at our hunting association does very well with this and it is more than adequate for using later in life too.
    It has a proven track record over here ... an excellent hunting caliber for all antelope and all hunters, never mind their age or gender.
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    I've seen a couple cut down stocks on eBay for cheap. one screw to swap it out and when he grows a bit can put the original stock back on
    just a thought
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    1894 in .357. It will never be outgrown, no matter how old he gets.

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    If you are set on a 30-30 and can't find a JM, you might want to take a look at the Remlin 336W. That's the model that comes with a 3x9 scope. Another member here said the scope is not so good. The price is $429. Dealers have that model in stock, so you want to look the rifle over for fit and finish. If it turns out the recoil is too much for him, you can always get an additional recoil pad that goes over the one that comes with the rifle.

    A lower grain ammunition would be better for a youth. I don't know how large the deer are where you live, but a 30-30 can take down most US deer without trouble.


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    I bought my oldest a 2002 Marlin 336W when he was 14 and had him shoot 125g Remington Managed Recoil rounds because he had no meat on him at all. He shot a nice 10 pointer that field dressed at 195lbs, it ran 40 yards before going down. My point is the lighter 30-30 round will get the job done and is easier on their shoulder.
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