I hunt northern Wisconsin big woods country where 100 yards is considered a "long" shot and my average whitetail shot range over some 45 years is probably closer to 50 yards. I have a Marlin 30-30, 30-06 and 7M-08. I have used them all. The Marlin is my choice for tree stand locations...short and handy to move around compared to the bolt guns. My largest buck has been 214# dressed and he ran approximately 30 yards after the shot....no farther than similar sized deer shot with the faster calibers. The 30-30 is very adequate when used within its reasonable range.