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    Marlin 25-36 reloading.

    I purchases a 1893 Marlin in this caliber. I am in need of dies and brass. Parent case is 30-30 or 32-40. The problem is the case length is 2.13 for the Marlin and the 30-30 comes up short like 25-35, by .008. The bullet sits back just far enough that it will cause the neck area to crack on 25-35 and accuracy problems from what I have read. 32-40 is sold out every where I look. Buffalo arms makes rounds out of 38-55 brass for $1.65 each. RCBS makes conversion dies for $166.00 to be used with 32-40 and reload dies for $145.00. Quality Cartridge makes brass for it, Grafs has it, 20 brass for $37.59 or $1.88 each. I am not opposed to buying what ever I need to make it work, I just want to buy once. I was just hoping someone had gone before me here with a place to start. I am thinking the conversion of 38-55 may be the way to go but the neck has to go from .382 to .282 inches. That seems like you are stuffing 5 pounds of you know what into a 1 pound bag.......I will do a chamber cast and re-evaluate I guess. The 38-55 brass is plentiful and I may go that route but just not sure moving that much metal will work?? Buy 40 brass cases of Quality Cartridge and a set of Marlin dies to start and see.......thanks for any help.
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    CH 4D, Environment Test might be able to supply the dies, that's where I got mine. They were also quite a bit cheaper than anyone else. All of my 25-36 brass is made from resized 32-40 donor brass. I was fortunate to have a good supply to start with. Resizing is a breeze with the CH 4D FL sizing die. I anneal the case necks first, then I just spray on a little lube on the brass and with one moderate stroke I have my 25-36 brass. Length is also correct when using 32-40 brass. I would strongly recommend using 32-40, which is the real parent case, .30-30 was for the 25-35. Of course, YMMV. Good luck, my 25-36 is probably the most accurate of all my old Marlins, and is a pleasure to shoot.
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    I'm with GTS. Use .32-40 brass if you're planning to reform that calibre to .25-36 Marlin. However, you say you can get .25-36 Marlin brass from Quality Cartridge or Grafs ? Then that's the way to go because it will save you getting the forming die from R.C.B.S. for $166.00. $1.88 a case is actually O.K. in spite of sounding expensive. If you're sensible with your handloads you'll get many many reloads. I have cases that have been reloaded multiple times and I've yet to throw one out after 10 years reloading them. Mind you I did anneal them initially. Also get the decent sizing dies in .25-36 Marlin from R.C.B.S. I got the reforming dies as well but they were indeed expensive but I've found in all this stuff over 38 years of handloading that when you try to cut corners by getting cheap that it'll come back to bite you eventually. Don't use .38-55 cases because they're the wrong length as well. Eventually Starline or one of the other makers will throw a run of .32-40 and then you can jump in. I must say it's very nice, however, to have the correct head stamp.
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    If it were me, I would just shoot 25-35 in it. Although, I have a 25-35 and and a stock pile of brass. My next best route would be converging 30-30 cases after an aneal. Who cares if the case is short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ldpfeifer View Post
    I purchases a 1893 Marlin in this caliber. I am in need of dies and brass. Parent case is 30-30 or 32-40. The problem is the case length is 2.13 for the Marlin and the 30-30 comes up short like 25-35, by .008. The bullet sits back just far enough that it will cause the neck area to crack on 25-35 and accuracy problems from what I have read. 32-40 is sold out every where I look. Buffalo arms makes rounds out of 38-55 brass for $1.65 each. RCBS makes conversion dies for $166.00 to be used with 32-40 and reload dies for $145.00. Quality Cartridge makes brass for it, Grafs has it, 20 brass for $37.59 or $1.88 each. I am not opposed to buying what ever I need to make it work, I just want to buy once. I was just hoping someone had gone before me here with a place to start. I am thinking the conversion of 38-55 may be the way to go but the neck has to go from .382 to .282 inches. That seems like you are stuffing 5 pounds of you know what into a 1 pound bag.......I will do a chamber cast and re-evaluate I guess. The 38-55 brass is plentiful and I may go that route but just not sure moving that much metal will work?? Buy 40 brass cases of Quality Cartridge and a set of Marlin dies to start and see.......thanks for any help.
    ldpfeifer,

    I can only share my experiences. It sounds like your first mission is 32-40 brass.

    I have used Starline 38-55 short and long brass to form 32-40 cases. I first used the long case and a full length 32-40 size die. It worked beautifully with Imperial Wax lube working in small increments and annealed cases. However, the case stretched so much in the process I had to trim before fininshing or it would be too long for the die crushing the case mouth. I changed to the Starline 38-55 short brass and it works great. The 32-40 case ends up just a little long so a small trim is needed for the 2.125" finished length.

    From the formed 32-40 case you may only need your full length 25-36 sizing die and an intermediate step down.

    I agree with the above, CH4D is my choice for custom dies as well. You can call them and they will help you with what you need without selling you more than you need.

    Also, a little short is not a problem. After several firings they should stretch needing a trim anyway. It it were me, I would try the 30-30 route first and shoot a test lot of cases 3-4 times to see you get any case stretch.

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    Idpfeifer,

    Have a friend that has a model 99 Savage in 25/35, so helping him out, I bought a set of Hornady 25/35 dies and using new 30/30 brass and Imperial sizing wax, it was one pass in and out of the dies and I had brass in hand.

    Just don't over apply the sizing wax!

    There were NO problems/issues with loading or shooting the rounds created in this way! Quick and simple!

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    FYI, I just ordered 2 50 ct bags of new Winchester .32-40 brass from Duck Creek Sporting Goods in Colorado. https://duckcreeksportinggoods.com/

    Price was $36.50 IIRC. They may be out by now, but are expecting more soon.
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