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    356 Winchester load data with Hodgen lever powder ?

    Is there any load data with hodgen lever powder for 356 Winchester? Seems like this would be a good powder for the 356 but can't seem to find any data with this powder.
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    I've experimented with this powder. I would call it average. With 200 grain bullets, I found Hodgdon H322 to be the most accurate and give highest velocity
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    I can't comment on the 356 since I've only tried it in the 25/35 where I found both W-748 and Hodgdon BLc2 gave better velocities at safe pressure. LVR did well only with 75 gr. bullets.
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    I have been curious about this also.
    Maybe if enough of us ask Hodgdon to develop data for their Leverevolution (LVR) powder in the .356 Win they will help us.
    I am a lot more comfortable using data if I see it published from the manufacturer.
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    Not trying to hijack this thread, but does anyone have a good 180 gr. bullet pet load ? Thinking about trying this in my 30AS shorty next deer season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twodot View Post
    Maybe if enough of us ask Hodgdon to develop data for their Leverevolution (LVR) powder in the .356 Win they will help us.

    I called Hodgdon and talked to the about this, the guy I talked to said they had no intention of developing data for the 356, in fact they didn't even have a test barrel for it?
    I wouldn't hold my breath!??

    I intend to try it with the Speer 220grn bullets, just need to get off my butt and do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrench man View Post
    I called Hodgdon and talked to the about this, the guy I talked to said they had no intention of developing data for the 356, in fact they didn't even have a test barrel for it?
    I wouldn't hold my breath!??

    I intend to try it with the Speer 220grn bullets, just need to get off my butt and do it.
    My interest would also be with the speer 220gr bullet. Too bad hodgen wouldn't develop some data with this powder
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawlerbrook View Post
    Not trying to hijack this thread, but does anyone have a good 180 gr. bullet pet load ? Thinking about trying this in my 30AS shorty next deer season.

    I don't mean to Hi Jack this thread, either..................

    I can't help with the Konnerman original question, but I can help Shawlerbrook with his question ......................

    After much testing about 15 years ago, I now use 43.5 Grains of Accurate Arms #2015 under a Speer #2435 180 Gr. HCFN as my only 356 load, for a chrono'd velocity of 2531 FPS for a 7 shot group. This load is 0.5 Grains BELOW (44.0Grs) where I was getting "Sticky Openings".............Sticky openings make me nervous...........I recall this load was a bit more accurate, too..............

    All testing was done off the bench at 100 yards using a Leupold Vari-X II 1x-4x scope set on 3x power..............

    As I recall, this load produced 7 shot groups under 2" inches. Later, I worked further with this load and I recall I was getting 3-5 shot groups under 1.50"..................This was all done about 2004, soon after I had my 336ER built at Marlin North Haven.

    I haven't deviated from that load since then....................How does it work on White Tails?..............LOL!.........I don't know!........... I have a hard time finding them, now!............but it works well on coyotes!

    Konnerman, I'd suggest you concentrate on Propellants that were in use back and available on the market when the 356 Winchester was released............Call the Ballistians at those companies for some help.........I recall that's what I did in the absence of available published 356 data............Help is out there for the asking........

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    I have a fair amount of data and a good load with IMR 4064 with speer 220gr FN. Tried 180gr speer with H322 and accuracy was terrible. Was interested in Hodgen LVR because it seems to work well in other lever gun cartridges such as 308 ME and 35 Remington, but without any data from manufacturer will have to stick with what's already out there . It's good to hear what loads people are using and like too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomray View Post
    I don't mean to Hi Jack this thread, either..................

    Konnerman, I'd suggest you concentrate on Propellants that were in use back and available on the market when the 356 Winchester was released............

    Tom
    I'm not trying to pick fight, but how would that work out for the 38-55 or 45-70 or 30-30 or .... you get the idea.
    I guess I'm just an optimist hoping that the new stuff will be better than the old. I have been disappointed more than once.
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