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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2009, 09:41:54 AM » |
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If I ever get to go elk hunting again I will use the Leverevolution 165gr round as for the range you can get out of it. I'm to the point in life I sit down and wait for the game at some good place for a blind. If I hunt all day walking that's it for the year. So I need that extra yardage. I loaded some of Swany's rounds with the Speer 170gr @ 2300 to 2320 and they are a solid loading and round but if I need an extra 100yds for elk there is nothing that compares with the Hornady Levereveloution round.
I reload and have not been able to get anywhere close to Hornady for range.
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2009, 07:51:51 PM » |
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Where do you guys get the data for the win32spl. with Velocity at "2300 to 2320 fps. The Speer hand book # 13 show a top velocity of 2205 fps using the 170 gr Speer.
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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2009, 11:23:41 PM » |
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When you have a chronograph you can read those kind of numbers and thats with a 20" barrel. I believe the 24" barrel probably would do 40 to 50fps more. I don't know though I don't own a 24" barrel unless swany woluld let use his. Although that is probably wishful thinking. Did my pictures come thru on this thread on my .32 Win. I wouldn't let anyone use mine not even my son. Maybe though my grandson I would let his use it he pays more attention to me than he does his dad. You know the father & son thing his dad will get smarter about the time he is 25 or 26yrs old.
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« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2009, 07:49:04 AM » |
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The Speer's hand book # 13 show a top velocity of 2205 fps using the 170 gr Speer.
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The above data was test with a Win.94, 20" barrel. I'm sure Speer chronograph it. Even at 50 fps. faster out of a 24" barrel is not 2300 or 2320 fps. So I would like to know what powder & charge, type of primer, brand of case to use to achieve this load.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2009, 01:57:05 AM » |
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i mustsay ive hunted with all 3 the 3030 32 and 35 which i hunt with now there really isnt much diffrence in 3030 and 32 with factory loads i dont reload so i always use rem corre loks in all three only deffrence ive seen is blood trail size which isnt much diffrence but enogh to know in the 32 suppose to 3030 now the 35 is much diffrent in knock down and blood trail i love my 35 by far would recomened one to any big game hunter i dont think theres a animal i cant drop inall 50 staetes even with factory loads
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2009, 05:20:47 AM » |
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i mustsay ive hunted with all 3 the 3030 32 and 35 which i hunt with now there really isnt much diffrence in 3030 and 32 with factory loads i dont reload so i always use rem corre loks in all three only deffrence ive seen is blood trail size which isnt much diffrence but enogh to know in the 32 suppose to 3030 now the 35 is much diffrent in knock down and blood trail i love my 35 by far would recomened one to any big game hunter i dont think theres a animal i cant drop inall 50 staetes even with factory loads
That is why I said the razor difference is with the 30/30 vs win32spl. and I agree with you that the 35 Rem. is in a class all by it's self. And I do think there isn't any north American big game that can't be harvested with all three.. |
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« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2009, 06:17:49 AM » |
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32 win. spl. factory ammo for sale. trading post under (subject Remington)
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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2009, 10:29:48 PM » |
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I have had a bunch of Marlin 336 and Win 94 rifles. Most in 30-30 but a few in 32 Spl. This is my experiance.
--Win. rifles kick harder that Marlin rifles. Same cart. I believe stock design is the reason.
--I felt no difference in the kick between the 30-30 and 32.
--My grandfathers Win. rifle in 32 Spl shot one yard size groups at 100 yards. Ammo from the 60's. I bought another 94 in 30-30 and switched barrels and got less than 2" groups at 100 yards.
I checked loading data and 30-30 and 32 are loaded to the same pressure and factory loads are within 50 fps. as are handloads.
The 30-30 has 1-12 twist rifling. The 32 has 1-16 twist. It takes a faster twist to stabilize the heavier bullet. That could be a factor in the 32 spls reputation for being inaccurate.
Aside from that the debate continues. No real substanciale conclusions will ever be made.
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« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2009, 10:59:04 AM » |
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Indian say "Any rifle good shootem good". It just don't matter if you place the bullet well and select the right bullet....most times. That said out of the 30-30, 32 HPS (center rifle), and 38-55 the 32 HPS is my favorite Marlin and the 26 in barrel gets another few dozen fps.  |
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« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2009, 12:57:57 PM » |
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I will add one other thing on the .32 Special, mine is very accurate, one other item is the bullets you use.
Hornady while less BC than the Speer does have less surface to push through the rifling and is generally faster load for load. If you have the two to check, check above and below the crimp groove for dia.
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« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2009, 12:45:23 PM » |
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Actually I can reproduce that in a matter of seconds.
Put your cursor at the start of the article, while holding down the left mouse button, then scroll down until it is all highlighted. Let go of the mouse do a control C, open up word pad on your PC and put your cursor in it and right mouse button and paste. You can do this from any article on your screen.
One other is to get Printkey 2000 on your pc it is a free download and you can capture any picture, or a piture of an article with it. This little prg has a box in feature to capture pics and either print or save them, to me it is a very valuable prg.
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« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2009, 12:59:45 AM » |
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Indian say "Any rifle good shootem good". It just don't matter if you place the bullet well and select the right bullet....most times. That said out of the 30-30, 32 HPS (center rifle), and 38-55 the 32 HPS is my favorite Marlin and the 26 in barrel gets another few dozen fps. That is a fine set of rifles there now! |
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« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2009, 09:26:06 AM » |
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Indian say "Any rifle good shootem good". It just don't matter if you place the bullet well and select the right bullet....most times. That said out of the 30-30, 32 HPS (center rifle), and 38-55 the 32 HPS is my favorite Marlin and the 26 in barrel gets another few dozen fps. That is a fine set of rifles there now! I wish Marlin would go back to making their receiver like that again. Yes they are nice. |
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