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« on: November 06, 2009, 12:15:03 PM » |
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Now you all got me thinkin. Who makes a good cast lead bullet for the 45/70 for whitetail and maybe a black bear that decides to stroll by. What should the hardness of the lead be, do I need a gas check, I think they are called, do I put these on by myself or do they come with them, I reload but never reloaded with lead bullets..
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2009, 12:35:28 PM » |
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You can order bullets with gas checks on them. But in my opinion if you are going to start shooting lead bullets why not cast them yourself? Just decide on the bullet you want to use, get a mould and go to casting. It's not all that hard to do and there are many different ways to lube so you wouldn't have to have a lubrasizer, although they make it much easier to put on gas checks. The benefits of casting your own are many including quality control, availability, hard/soft under your control, and there is a certain pride factor involved too.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 12:50:23 PM » |
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Beartooth Bullets
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« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2009, 01:53:11 PM » |
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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2009, 02:01:52 PM » |
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I cast my own and just like reloading I did it to save money and have better quallity control. Just like reloading it can be expensive but is well worth the time and investment. I have picked up some casting equipment at garage sales, and estate sales. The best way to get started is to get set up with one bullet for your 45-70 in a chosen weight and go from there. Lee is a good way to get started if money is hard. Lyman has some great books for casting.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2009, 04:36:20 PM » |
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I looked up Beartooth bullets on the web. They list 3 diameters for the 45/70, Which one for the 45/70
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« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2009, 04:46:09 PM » |
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.460” for the Marlin, but if you were planning to use them this year, you prolly too late.  |
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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2009, 06:56:40 PM » |
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I looked up Beartooth bullets on the web. They list 3 diameters for the 45/70, Which one for the 45/70
.460 is a guess. To do it right, slug the barrel and get bullets .001 (to .002) larger than groove diameter. Beartooth bullets are good but you may have to wait weeks or months. Missouri or Oregon Trail if you want them in about 3 days. Missouri will size per your request. |
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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2009, 09:44:38 PM » |
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Like the others said, you may want to try casting yourself. I use air cooled wheel weights, no gas checks, they cost nothing and work. A 400 grain bullet will work for about anything (405). Dan
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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2009, 10:07:35 PM » |
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I have yet to hear of .459 or .460 bullets that don't shoot well in the marlin.
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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2009, 10:31:32 PM » |
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I slugged my Marlin and it was .457" and I shoot .460" cast bullets in it and they shoot wonderful.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 12:34:47 AM » |
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I too shoot the .459 but I use Oregon trail Trushots or Cast Performance
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 12:42:54 AM » |
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I cast and shoot my own.  |
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 08:14:54 AM » |
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I have kicked myself a thousand times over the last couple of years. I gave away about 600# of wheelweights about 2 summers ago. I hadn't cast in about 15 years and got tired of them laying around the house. I called a guy that I knew that was into casting and he came and got them. Later I picked up a 480 Ruger SRH, 45/70 1895 and now a 1894 44 Mag. What I'd give to have that lead back.
I call the local tire shops and they won't let me have any. I even offer to pay, but they say no.
Oh well. Lesson learned!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 08:21:28 AM » |
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I have kicked myself a thousand times over the last couple of years. I gave away about 600# of wheelweights about 2 summers ago. I hadn't cast in about 15 years and got tired of them laying around the house. I called a guy that I knew that was into casting and he came and got them. Later I picked up a 480 Ruger SRH, 45/70 1895 and now a 1894 44 Mag. What I'd give to have that lead back.
I call the local tire shops and they won't let me have any. I even offer to pay, but they say no.
Oh well. Lesson learned!!
My stories about the same ! when I moved out of Fla. I left about 400 Lbs of bars abd about 500 Lbs of cast bullits in all the calibers i cast ! Thought I could get more lead up here easey  |
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