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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 12:32:12 PM » |
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I may be wrong but in this day and age it would seem to me that Marlin will produce a barrel that could be interchanged, one tooling set-up, with the exception of chamber reaming, for the 44 mag and the 44-40 so my assumptions would be to first slug the bore but not be surprised if a bullet intended for 44 mag would work in the 44-40
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39/40....so I missed one...if I got them all wouldn't have something to shoot for (NRA CLAR)
1895 CB 45-70
336 CB 38-55
336 CB 30-30
1893 30-30
1894 CB 44-40
1894 CB 44 mag
1894 CL 25-20
1894 25-20
1897 CB 22lr
1892 22lr
39A 22lr
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44-40 Willy
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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 12:56:14 AM » |
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Ruger did that with their 44-40 Vaquero. It was inaccurate.
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Marlins in 44-40, busting deer and other varmits since 1888.
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georgeky
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« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2009, 09:18:05 AM » |
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Yep. I had a Ruger Vaquero SS with 7.5 inch barrel and it wouldn't hit a barn. I traded it even up to a marlin 39A with a cheap Simmons scope on it and was tickled with the trade. The 39A shoots where you point it. I read where Ruger had corrected this problem in later versions.
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44-40 Willy
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2009, 12:51:27 AM » |
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What Ruger did with the later 44-40 Vaqueros was to open up the chamber neck to allow the chambering of larger than .429 bullets. They still used the 44 Magnum barrel on the 44-40. Not a proper fix that would work good with factory 44-40 ammo, but if you reload and use 44 Mag bullets it would work.
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Marlins in 44-40, busting deer and other varmits since 1888.
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JBledsoe
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« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2009, 07:19:58 PM » |
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Hi George,
I shoot 200 gr. Lazer-Cast in my Marlin 44-40 CB. Bullets are sized .427 and they are accurate ! The rifle when scope sighted will run the bullets thru the same hole at 50 yds. I load them to about 1200 fps with Unique. The 44-40 CB is one of the most accurate lever guns that I own.
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georgeky
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« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2009, 07:29:00 PM » |
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JBledsoe
That is good to here since I have 250 .427 cast bullets on hand and would like to use them.
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JBledsoe
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2009, 09:52:21 AM » |
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JBledsoe
That is good to here since I have 250 .427 cast bullets on hand and would like to use them.
George, Accuracy is much better in my rifle with strong loads than with mild loads. 7 to 8 gr. of Unique is what my rifle likes and it may be because the stronger loads obdurate the bullet to fit the bore better. I have a few pounds of Herco that I want to try in this rifle. Anyway, you are going to love that 44-40 rifle. Mine is second only to the 1894 C on the fun factor scale and that is because the "C" is handier and ammo easier to obtain. Of course we need pictures.  PS. I have never tried unlubed bullets in the Marlin. If they cause leading you might look around for some spray on lube. I have not used those Hornady bullets in years but I don't recall any leading issues. . |
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georgeky
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 10:02:45 AM » |
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JB
I don't have the rifle in my hands as of yet. Ships Monday to my FFL guy and he is 80 miles away so not sure how long before I actually get it. Is easier for me to pay the 15 dollars per gun to have a local dealer accept it for me but the guy 80 miles away is an old friend and it gives me a reason to go see him now and then. I usually pick up at least 2 or 3 guns when I visit him. As of now he will have the 44-40 and the 1894 Sporter I bought also.
Soon as I get my grubby paws on them pics will come. I may even have them both in time for deer season which comes in here in less than 2 weeks. If not the 38-55 will do.
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SilverBow
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2009, 01:34:21 PM » |
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Anyway, you are going to love that 44-40 rifle. Mine is second only to the 1894 C on the fun factor scale and that is because the "C" is handier and ammo easier to obtain.
Man, you guys are making me impatient... I've never owned or fired a 44-40 before, but I recently purchased a Marlin 1889 in 44-40, which I'm currently restoring, so it's not yet in shooting condition. The rifle feels incredible in my hands, though, so I can't wait to shoot her. Am I correct in assuming that the loads given are with plainbase bullets? I can find little information about gaschecked bullets in the 44-40, which is great in that I'd prefer to avoid the GCs. Also, does anyone have experience loading Pyrodex rounds for their 44-40? I've started to catch the blackpowder bug, and my old Hodgdon manual has some Pyrodex data for 44-40. |
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georgeky
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« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2009, 02:36:49 PM » |
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The hornady bullets I have are plain based.
I hear that Pyrodex is more corrosive on your gun than black powder. I beleve that myself since it nearly ruined the barrels in my muzzle loaders before switching back to BP. I think i will stick to modern smokeless powders in mine.
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44-40 Willy
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« Reply #25 on: November 03, 2009, 10:41:22 PM » |
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I've shot Pyrodex P in mine. It was interesting but I went back to smokeless.
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Marlins in 44-40, busting deer and other varmits since 1888.
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JBledsoe
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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2009, 11:13:18 AM » |
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. I do not see a need for gas check bullets in the 44-40. The 44-40 was used for half a century without gas checks and it's hard to see any advantage now. I do not run my 44-40 over 1400 fps so with a properly lubed bullet the gas check is unnecessary. If higher velocity is called for I switch to a 44 Mag. or larger caliber. Black powder? I use Unique and Herco, it's kinda black. . |
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44-40 Willy
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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2009, 08:52:18 PM » |
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I use jacketed bullets for the high velocity stuff.
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Marlins in 44-40, busting deer and other varmits since 1888.
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georgeky
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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2009, 09:03:32 PM » |
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I use jacketed bullets for the high velocity stuff.
That is kinda what I was thinking. I do the same with my 38-55's. |
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44LVR
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2009, 01:13:02 PM » |
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I use jacketed bullets for the high velocity stuff.
That is kinda what I was thinking. I do the same with my 38-55's. George! Bite your tongue! There is no reason to use jacketed in the 38-55. She just can't push 'em fast enough to need jacketed stuff.  44 |
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