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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2009, 01:08:15 PM » |
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Yes, i've looked at it as well and have drawn the same conclusions. You have put me on to something that i have yet to look at as the culprit, which is the screw that holds the ejector down. If you take the bolt out and insert an empty shell into place on the clip you will notice that the rim protrudes ever so slightly just outside the bolt. I also noticed that the screw, while not holding down the ejector, is raised up or not in line with the base. this could be causing the shell to slide out prematurly as it is rubbing before it hits the ejector. I have sanded the screw down and with a spent case it seems to be working fine. I hope to get out to the range tommorrow if it will stop snowing (southern ontario)to see if this really did do it. Thanks Daryl.
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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2009, 01:14:20 PM » |
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I sure hope that di it. Im not real good with figuring out those moving parts sometimes but I think Ive got a real good Idea of hoe the 39 works now. I will be watching for an update.
Good luck.
Daryl
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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2009, 04:29:46 PM » |
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Do a real good cleaning around the chamber areas little recesses that is where the extractor grabs the case rim. If not clean it can cause problems. One other area is under the extractor on the bolt, if it is not fully grabbing the case it can cause ejection problems also.
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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2009, 05:08:36 PM » |
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I one had a similar problem on a 39A and it was the extractor. Like Swany said it wasn't holding the case long enough for the ejector to push it out. In my case I actually needed a new extractor but I can see how a dirty bolt face would cause the same problem.
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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2009, 05:38:38 PM » |
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With a dirty bolt face the extractor cant grip the shell properly. I can see that making the ejection not work right.
Daryl
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2009, 12:23:10 PM » |
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Did you get to ch your 39 out today and see if you fixed it?
Daryl
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2009, 03:24:54 PM » |
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Yes I did. The weather's been awful so I took about 30 to 35 shots and found a definite improvement. It failed to eject 4 times so I figure a good cleaning might help some more, not that I'm complaining now. It still does not send them out with any force but I am glad to see that they are coming out.  |
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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2009, 05:03:12 PM » |
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Glad its better. Id scrub that bolt face with a tooh brueh and solven like hoppes#9.maybe even use a tooh pick to clean the are where the rim of the shell sets.and the hooked part of the extractor and under the ejector. I got a feeling a new extractor mau be needed.A good cleaning is the best thing to do first though. Again Im glad its better.
Daryl
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« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2009, 05:18:25 PM » |
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Try different ammo.. I never use shorts so have no clue on them.
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2009, 02:13:17 PM » |
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I've been playing with it some more today and I noticed that when I open the bolt half way and look inside the clip is sometimes pinching the rim and not up and over the rim holding it in place. When I complete the cycle the pinched shells just fall off into the receiver while the the shells that are held down on the rim are ejected out. I've noticed that the clip appears to be too long and that a bit shaved off the end should fix this completely. Should there be a groove on the receiver end to accept the clip to help it ride over the rim. There is a ramp there to push the clip back, but a groove in that ramp would ensure that the clip grabs it every time.
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2009, 07:31:38 PM » |
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Im not sure but sounds like you are getting close. The clip I think you are talking about the ejector. You could work on it and id you mess up you can always get a new one.
Daryl
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2009, 08:39:14 PM » |
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You guys have a lot of patience. If after taking mine apart for good mechanism cleaning, put back together and still did not act right, I'd ship it to Marlin for serious work and alignment.
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2009, 07:15:44 AM » |
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I had the same problem it would just eject afoot or so out the fifle, I put an empty shell on the bolt with the bolt out of the rifle and it would fit good but when I put it back in the rifle it would hardly eject, It was just catching the rim on the edge, I found that the groove that the ejector fit into the barrel was lifting the ejector off of the rim so I filed that down a little changed the angle I did not want to file the ejctor to much as to weeken it,I used a felt pen on the shell untill I could see that it was going over the rim and it now ejects about 8 feet to the side. I hope this might help a little, We have to remeber these are prodution guns but great ones. Steve!!  |
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2009, 06:46:02 PM » |
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Nail are you talking about the extractor? I may have to look at the
manual and see if Im naming the parts right. The extractor should be the one on the bolt and the ejector the one on the left inside the receiver.I may be wrong and have been many times. If Im reading right the notch/groove you worked on is at the rear and right side of the barrell.Im curious cause it sounds like you really cured the problem
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Daryl
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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2009, 08:42:16 PM » |
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My terminology is most likely not correct as well but I now what you're talking about Daryl. I to have considered grinding away part of the "ramp" that pushes the extractor up when the bolt is closed but thought this a little too drastic. I have sanded down the extractor ever so slightly just to have it ride over the rim so as not to pinch the side but hold the rim. Hopefully I can get to the range on thursday to see how this works. The extractor also seems to bend in towards itself and might try bending it out if the sanding doesn't work. I will let you know how this works out.
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