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What is the most awkward,diffacult or dangerous safty mechanism . you'v ever encountered on a 22rf.Personaly,it was a self-cocking Rem.model 514 with it's tiny little twist knob at the rear of the bolt.It was the first 22 I bought with my own money,and I loved it but the safty was so awkward to me esp.with gloves or cold fingers that I would load the chamber,pull the trigger ,then slowly close the bolt to keep it from cocking.upon spotting game I would have to raise and lower the bolt before I could fire.Lets hear from you guys what you consider the worst 22 safty on the planet.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2004, 08:24:15 AM » |
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I'm left handed so they're all awkward to me unless it's a left handed rifle, but the most awkward safety to me is on the Mossberg 151 series. You have to pull the bolt back just a little ways then push in on the charging handle to put it on safety.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2004, 04:39:16 PM » |
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Being a levergun and SA revolver shooter, anything other than a "half-cock" safety is awkward to me. I can't count the times I have squeezed the trigger and the hammer hit the cross-bolt safety instead of the firing pin, with my 39A, 30AW, and Winchster 94AE. It doesn't spook the paper targets any, but there are a couple of thankful squirrels for that crossbolt safety on my 39A.
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 07:45:33 PM » |
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I must be having a bad day! First, I post this to the wrong thread and can't delete it because I have to remember to log in everytime I enter MarlinOwners.com.........Then I didn't realize I was on the rimfire board in the first place! :oops: Oh,well.....Mama told me there'd be days like this!__________________________________________________________ My CZ 527 American's safety is just the opposite as you would think.....forward for safe....rear for fire. I have to remind myself of that each time I use it.  My SAR-1 Romanian AK47's safety is the only rifle I have where you have to remove your hand from a "ready to shoot" position, in order to operate the safety. For a battle rifle, I'd have thought Kalashnikov would have thought that one out a little better! the safety is that oblong thing just behind the ejection port.....the ledge for the shooter to push on is on the far right side.  hogship |
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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 07:53:08 PM » |
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Hogship, I agree with the CZ it catchs me off quard too some times..
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 06:10:32 PM » |
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Hi GJ......
Say, isn't your CZ the 452? You mean the 452 has the same safety as the 527?
Come to think of it, seems to me I read somewhere that European rifles are commonly made with "backward" safties. Screwy!
They ought to ditch those berdan primers, too!
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2004, 07:15:06 PM » |
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The 452's safety is not the same location as the 527. It is on the bolt, but it still moves forward to safe.
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« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2004, 11:34:14 AM » |
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MM 93 is right,, and yes its the 452 special.. It goes forward to safe. just opposite of everything else I own..  |
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2004, 10:11:43 AM » |
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I have a Marlin bolt action .22 Model 81 DL, which I received for a birthday present in 1949. Its safety also works bassackwards, back is "off" ready to fire, forward is "on". It works perfectly fine, but is opposite of my 788 and 700. No problems over the 55 years I've had it, as long as I keep what's left of my wits about me. The gun is still functioning and I am using it to break my 10 year old Grandson into the use of firearms.
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2004, 10:16:44 AM » |
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I agree the old Marlin safety that you had to click back toward you to fire is awkward,but works good on a 25 I've got.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2004, 06:37:21 AM » |
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Pulling the safty back to fire is more natural to me,90% of my shooting is done with a revolver or lever action.I beleive this was the line of thinking taken in some of the older designs.
The old H&R 25 and 32 selfloadeng pistols required the safty to be pushed up to fire,now that one will keep you on your toes.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2004, 10:28:08 AM » |
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I agree with mudpuppy. Pulling a safety back seems more natural, just like cocking a hammer before you fire.
As far as awkward safetys, I always thought the automatic safety found on shotguns were inconvenient as heck. I grew up with rifles and have never gotten used to always flipping the safety every time I chambered another round. That safety on the side of the lever on the Savage 99 wasn't too easy to manipulate either, especially with gloves.
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