The Old West

[Jarhead49]

This is a pic I took yesterday of my 1873's and a modified Cherokee flat bow I built (62", 50lbs @ 27"). Funny how we come full circle on things. Before I went in the CORPS I was all about the "Battle Rifle" but after carrying one for 20 years the appeal has faded. Now, I am interested in what sparked my imagination of the "Old West" when I was a Kid. I ordered a new rig from Kirkpatrick for the SA and things are coming together.

[marlinluvr]

Very nice jarhead! Yes indeed, it's truly amazing how we come full circle as we get older! I've also found that what I fought my father over as a young man, my son is fighting me over (all minor stuff in the big scheme of life) in his quest to become a man and if you'd have told me this when I was younger, I never would have believed it! As hard as it is to believe sometimes, yes, I have become my father!

[Dirtwater Doc]

Nice outfit!!! You're almost ready for Cowboy Action shooting. You need a second pistol and a shotgun. A 20" SxS Coachgun would be perfect.

I like that Arkansas toothpick....now that's a "knoife"

You can get the Uberti rifle slicked up with a short stroke kit that will cycle so fast that you will think it's semi-automatic.

Watch this:


DD

[Dirtwater Doc]

Very nice jarhead! Yes indeed, it's truly amazing how we come full circle as we get older! I've also found that what I fought my father over as a young man, my son is fighting me over (all minor stuff in the big scheme of life) in his quest to become a man and if you'd have told me this when I was younger, I never would have believed it! As hard as it is to believe sometimes, yes, I have become my father!

With stuff like this it's more like we have become our GREAT-GREAT Grandfathers!

DD

[Jarhead49]

Nice outfit!!! You're almost ready for Cowboy Action shooting. You need a second pistol and a shotgun. A 20" SxS Coachgun would be perfect.

I like that Arkansas toothpick....now that's a "knoife"

You can get the Uberti rifle slicked up with a short stroke kit that will cycle so fast that you will think it's semi-automatic.

Watch this:


DD

WOW! Would you happen to have a link?

[Dirtwater Doc]

http://www.cowboygunworks.com/index.html



DD

[Jarhead49]

OK peeps, this .45 LC or .45 Colt stuff just kinda fell in my lap. I've never had one before, always been a .44 guy. With that being said, mostly Model 29's , Redhawk's and Super Blackhawks. So I am not used to the light framed 1873 CD and I have some questions.

Factory Ammo and the Reproduction guns.

#1 I noticed that some ammo companies advertise .45 LC and some in .45 Colt. Is this a similar situation as to factory ammo and the 45/70? Do most companies lable their ammo like they do when referencing the Trapdoor vs the Marlin and Ruger? What about these, can these be shot safely and with out any excessive pressure on the Charles Daley? These came from my Dad he shot them in a Redhawk he once had. What about the Uberti?, that bolt on the Uberti seems kinda small what kinda loads can it handle.



There is not one reference to velocity or psi on or inside the box. Just classification ie Personal Defence, Hunting and Target and that is it.

As far as reloading and shooting hardcast ie. Lazer Cast etc.. what is considered a nice respectable moderate load that can do double duty as a target round and as a hunting round? Recommeded bullet weight ? right now I am shooting some PMC 250 gr JFP and Magtech 250 RNFP mainly to generate brass. If I follow the reloading manual is it based on loadings for the 1873? I know some of these questions are stupid but to be honest like I told another member of this forum there doesn't appear to be a clear train of thought. Lots of peeps doing different things with lots of different guns......

[Dirtwater Doc]

Jarhead49:

45LC (Long Colt) is an inappropriate designation for the 45 Colt round which dates back to 1872 as the ammunition specified by the Army for the new Colt Single Action Army revolver which replaced the .44 S&W American model, which was a better firearm, especially for cavalry. Later S&W made a .45 version called the Schofield Model but refused to use the longer 45C round and instead chose a shorter 45 called the 45 Schofield. That is, IMHO, the reason S&W did not become the Army standard. The Colt SAA would shoot both 45C and 45 Schofield rounds whereas the S&W could only use the shorter round. Imagine the troopers opening the ammo can in a battle and finding the WRONG ammo!! SNAFU!!!!

Cowboy action reloaders may choose the 45LC (or 45C), shorter 45 Schofield or even shorter Cowboy 45, which is used by black powder shooters with short stroked Marlins or Ubertis.Got that?

45LC or 45C are the same and will work in your SAA and rifle. LC helps differentiate this round from others.

Loading them is easy but be aware these firearms are modern reproductions of older designs like your rifle and SAA, that will not tolerate high power loads. Modern loading manuals differentiate loads for modern revolvers such as Rugers from older designs.

If you have never reloaded buy a manual. The Lee or Lyman Manuals are great starting points.

Hogdon powder has a great website to help you develop loads. I use 5.0 gn Clays for my 200 and 250gn RNFPs with magnum primers. In a 5.5" SAA it generates about 700 fps and 1150 in a 24" Marlin.

Cartridge Loads - Hodgdon Reloading Data Center - data.hodgdon.com
DD

[Jarhead49]

Thanks!

So I'm good with the silver tip. 45 Colt 225 gr.?

I do reload and you've givem me a place to start. I dont expect magnum performance. I do however want to maximize its potential.

[Dirtwater Doc]

Thanks!

So I'm good with the silver tip. 45 Colt 225 gr.?.

No in the Uberti, just fine in a Ruger.

DD