remlin quality improving?

[moron88]

some things occured to me all at once. it started with a thread on another forum, someone was looking for a remington 572 (the pump .22) but couldnt find one locally, and it was out of stock on my favorite site for so long they just removed it. that's when it came to me, i believe it was here someone said that the xt22's they had inspected were better than anything made on the past 7 years (paraphrasing and probably wrong). could they have sent some of their better employees to help train the new guys? this at very least would help eliminate the noob issues like canted barrels, crooked sights, horrendous bluing and the like.

so, does this mean new marlins are worth buying over used? i hope to get a bolt gun in the next couple months so i would like to know if a new xt22tr in particular is good enough to pay $180 or if i should wait to find another used tube fed bolt (i let a stevens mod 20 slip through my hands). in case you're wondering, i want tube fed for the option to shoot shorts and longs with no feed issues.

[sojourning]

One of my neighbors recently bought an XT-22. After sighting it in I can consistantly shoot 2" (or less) groups at 75 yards. That's the farthest out we've gone so far. Quality of the gun is great. Another friend just bought an XT-22, looks good but how does it shoot? -- we're planing to hit the range tomorrow. If we get it sighted in (there's a bunch of guys shooting, sometimes we don't have time to do what we'd like) I'll plan to post the results.

BTW, I want a semi-auto. Looking at the M60 (Marlin 60) but I too am concerned about quality issues. Seems from the reading I've done, recently made guns are good quality. Seems the quality issues appeared in the first two or three years Remington had control but have been resolved.

[Jnclem]

I got a 2012 model 60 DLX recently, and although the workmanship is not as good as years past, the gun seems to cycle more kinds of ammo without a problem, and shoot at least as accurately if not more, than any that I have shot before - including a 1973, a 1989, and a 2010. The 2010 had big problems. So my experience is that the older ones are certainly prettier, and maybe even more solidly built, but the new ones seem to function very well, and avoid '09 through '11 like the plague.

[moron88]

i still cant justify the cost of a new 60 simply because you can get a used one for $120 in pristine condition and the older ones have 18 round tubes. if you find one from '85-'88 (exact end date unknown) it'll have the 18 round mag and the last shot hold open. age is easy to tell. look at the first 2 digits of the serial number and subtract them from 2000. for instance, if it's first two are 20 then it was made in '80. this gets tricky in the 90's and now the late 80's because new ones are stamped with year of manufacture, so 01-12 are used on 2 different years. the easiest way to tell is the barrel, it was shrunk to 19" to match the mag tube in 2000.

[catherineloucks]

The new marlins are I think better than older ones. Its economically priced so I think You should better go with new. If confused about the edition, Marlin 60DLX would be good choice as its one of most preferred and popular rifles in the world.

[huyamarlin]

Well, I have just purchased a brand new Marlin lever action 30.30 here in Australia, and the first one I took home was a "lemon," anyhow, returned it due a few listed faults (vide this forum checklist) and the replacement is great, think they may sought their QC issues out>>>>>>>>>>>>perhaps in the months to follow, however, with their five year warranty, it certainly pays to buy "NEW!"........Just keep sending them back till they GET IT RIGHT!

Cheers

Mark aka HuyaMarlin

[Ocduff]

As I posted in another thread, my new Model 60 is pretty much perfect in fit and finish, and have put several hundred rounds down range with dead on accuracy and no feed issues or jams or misfires. Best money I've spent in a long time. But my experience on this forum, from what I've read is that no one wants to talk about the good guns, just the bad. The assumption might be that I got a fluke, but I seriously doubt that's the case. Customers won't run to a forum to share their good experiences. The will only run to a forum when they have an issue. And that's not just a Marlin thing. Anyway, I just can't believe I got this much quality for a USA item. Is it a work of art? No. But it's a really nice economically priced .22.

[momentum]

As I posted in another thread, my new Model 60 is pretty much perfect in fit and finish, and have put several hundred rounds down range with dead on accuracy and no feed issues or jams or misfires. Best money I've spent in a long time. But my experience on this forum, from what I've read is that no one wants to talk about the good guns, just the bad. The assumption might be that I got a fluke, but I seriously doubt that's the case. Customers won't run to a forum to share their good experiences. The will only run to a forum when they have an issue. And that's not just a Marlin thing. Anyway, I just can't believe I got this much quality for a USA item. Is it a work of art? No. But it's a really nice economically priced .22.

It's the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, that's how it always is. That's why it's so important for a company to have good QA and really make sure that as many products as possibly going out the door are without any problem.

Seems like Remington dropped the ball on the QA for a few years during the transition so a lot of crap was let out the door that should have gone back but that they are working hard on sorting that out and the products going out the door now are more consistantly good.
At least that's what I believe from everything I've read here and have seen myself for the last few years.

[sojourning]

I said I'd get back wth a report on another recently bought XT-22 (mentioned earlier in this thread) . Got back from the range a few hours ago. A BSA Sweet 22 scope was mounted to the rifle. The gun was sighted in. Impressions: not as nice as another XT-22 bought some months earlier. Trigger is stiffer, is not as easy to pull and not as crisp as 1st XT-22. Also bolt action not as smooth. Had to wrestle with it more than 1st XT-22. Perhaps it's because the gun is brand new and needs breaking in, not sure. Groups were consistent with three shooters, 2" @ 50 yrds. 1st XT-22 at 50 is more accurate. Why? Don't know. The 1st XT-22 has a Simmons scope. Seems we need to shoot it more to reach a conclusion.

Overall impression, little disappointed ... would sure like to see manufacturers exercise 'GREAT' QC and have consistancy product to product. Makes me hesitant to buy Marlin.

[Gee Wizz01]

I purchased a new MDL 60 SS at the first of the year, it is well made and accurate. My only complaint is the heavy trigger pull, and that can be fixed. I fired over 1000 rds without a single problem. It needs cleaning but it still chugs along without any problems.

Gary