Hello to all!. Since I got my 336RC, I've been gathering equipment, supplies, & data to start rolling my own for it. I was at Cabela's today.....picked up a 100/ct bag of Remington brass & took a peek in a 7th Edition Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading they had on display. I have to say I was taken aback by the velovities they offered for their 200gr Spire-point & 200gr Round-nose bullets, compared to what I've read here & on other sites. For this weight bullet, they START at 2650FPS, & depending on the powder, go to 2800-2900FPS, (!). They get that high number with 42.7grs Win. 748. I haven't seen any reference beyond 39grs, either here, or on other sites. They don't warn you off these loads for a specific action type, either. I fastest I've seen for that weight here was 2150 or maybe 2200 absolute max. I wouldn't think you'd get very many reloads out of a case, even if the gun could tolerate such, and I've read Paco Kelly's article that says the 336 is a 40,000+ load capable action. I'd appreciate your thought on these numbers, thanx, jd45
Sounds like you may have been looking a .35 Whelen data instead of .35 Remington.
That's what I thought, so I went back a second time & re-read it & it said......., are you ready?..... .35 Remington! I swear! I wonder if it could be a misprint? I'm gonna haveta call Hornady Monday & get the straight poop from them. The thing is, they listed loads for .357 handgun bullets in the cart on the same page. Know anybody shooting 158XTPs in the .35 Whelen? I don't, but that doesn't mean nobody does. Very curious, don'tcha think? jd45
That sounds like 350 remington magnum loads. I have seen loads for just about all 35 cal rifles using the hornady xtp bullets so thats nothing to new.
A 200 gr. bullet going 2600-2900 fps is a very high pressure load and just cant be done in a marlin leveraction.
Im interested what hornady will say so keep us up to date.
336C .35 remington
The Hornady 6th on page 538 does show the 158gr XTP and the 200gr #3510 spire point in their 35 Rem data, but the max load of W748 is 39.9gr @2000fps for the 200gr bullets, and in the text they state the spire point bullet is not for use in firearms with tubular mags, it's for firearms such as TCs and Rem M8, M81 and M760s. So if that is listed as 35 Rem data, it's a big mistake!!
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As soon as I talk to someone at Hornady Monday, I'll post the results here for all to read. I agree this data is NOT to be used in ANY kind of .35 Remington-chambered rifle. I don't think a 200gr load @ 2900fps in even a bolt-action, .35 Remington-chambered gun would be safe. jd45
jd45,Originally Posted by jd45
I donít know what youíre reading. I just checked my 7th Edition Hornady Handbook and the load map runs from 1,600 fps to a few achieving 2,050 fps. Half of the loads top out at 1,900 fps. I looked at the other 35ís and none of them had the velocity range you stated.
They do indicate a max load with 42.7grs Win. 748 but it has a velocity of 2,050 fps.
Out of curiosity I also looked it up in the Lyman Handbook. They indicate a max load of 41 grains for Win. 748 with a velocity of 2,041 fps and 34,600 C.U.P. for a 200 grain Sierra RN #2800.
Hope this helps.
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MD, that is certainly strange..........I'm gonna go back to Cabela's tomorrow, & double-check what I've read & let you know. jd45
Guys, Hornady posted error corrections right after they printed the manual. Download them here:
The .35 Rem was one of the error pages.
Thanx, smokinjoe,...........I thought I was goin nuts there, for a few minutes. jd45