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    H&R Buffalo Classic 45-70 a real old time buffalo rifle?

    Hey,
    I am able to buy an H&R Buffalo Classic chambered in .45-70 Gov. I saw it yesterday in an internet auction, but I don´t know really anything about these, or the real history of buffalo hunting in the 19th century. I don't see it in any books of mine or on the internet. I want to buy originally an H&R Trapdoor or a Winchester / Browning High Wall in .45-70. These weapons existed in the 19th century, the buffalo classic too?
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    ´70 .35 Rem 336 20"
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    ´65 .30-30 336 RC Saddle Ring Texan 20"
    ´79 Marlin 444 22"

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    H&R Model CR-45LC

    Some info here... Sure is pretty...
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    They cost around $500.00 US here...
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    Thanks, i saw these homepage yesterday too. also these video, of course. :-) But they write on their homepage "this rifle reflects true 19th century styling". i am irritated about this.
    is this a replica of a historical weapon? i know springfield trapdoor 1873, remington rolling block or sharps of course. i don´t want to buy a weapon without a historical background, you know?
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    ´70 .35 Rem 336 20"
    ´08 .45 Colt 1894 Cowboy 20"
    ´65 .30-30 336 RC Saddle Ring Texan 20"
    ´79 Marlin 444 22"

    Team 35 Rem #611
    Team 1894 #437
    Team Mauser #58
    Team 444 #719

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    This is not a replica of a historical weapon... Just a really nice single shot 45-70 that looks like an older rifle...
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    If you're asking whether the H&R Buffalo Classic is the same or even looks exactly the same, as a common buffalo gun back during the 1800s, no.

    It's kind of got the general look of that kind of thing, if you follow my meaning.

    Not denigrating the critter; they're good rifles and I've seen some good shooting done with 'em.

    It's just that it isn't truly historically correct. Try doing an image search for "Frank Wesson single shot" (the rifle that H&R liked to talk about in advertising the Buffalo Classic, as mentioned in at least one of the links in the above posts) on your favorite browser and compare it to the Buffalo Classic. If they really look the same to you...well, I'll head off in my own direction and leave you to go yours.
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    Thanks a lot. I was afraid of it. The suffix in front of the serialnumber is "WH" and the price here in germany is too high for me for an historic uncorrectly weapon.
    so i must look further to an H&R Trapdoor 1873 in .45-70
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    ´70 .35 Rem 336 20"
    ´08 .45 Colt 1894 Cowboy 20"
    ´65 .30-30 336 RC Saddle Ring Texan 20"
    ´79 Marlin 444 22"

    Team 35 Rem #611
    Team 1894 #437
    Team Mauser #58
    Team 444 #719

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    32" barrel! Now that's a 45-70
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