This is from Gary Reeders sight about marlin

[plumbercrackus]

i've made my mind up after the fiasco with my 308 me ,i will never again purchase any freedom group product i.e remington,barnes ,bushmaster etc
by the way ,a friend of mine purchased a mossberg recently and wouldnt extract the case,after that was fixed ..it wouldnt group

[Leverdude]

Not hard to read thru the BS if you know their product. 1894's are likely made in their own set of equipment, but 1895s are just 336s with big loading & ejection ports. Never seen how theyre made but I'd bet money that 99% of an 1895 comes off the same equipment as a 336 does.

[44-40 Willy]

Not hard to read thru the BS if you know their product. 1894's are likely made in their own set of equipment, but 1895s are just 336s with big loading & ejection ports. Never seen how theyre made but I'd bet money that 99% of an 1895 comes off the same equipment as a 336 does.

Yep, the 1895 is a modified 336.

I imagine there's a difference in the carrier in the area where the cartridge sits. It would probably need to be a little larger in that area. Bolt face is probably a little larger to accept the 45-70 rim.

[Tomray]

I wouldn't for a moment believe anything a "Rep" says about Manufacturing and the related equipment.............That said, the 336 and 1895's are made on the very same equipment.............That said, the Mod 39 is built on the the very oldest of all the equipment.............It's all milled, not broached.............and yes, milling is expensive compared to broaching.

KON, does a great job of explaining the "short sighted perceptions" of the freedom group.............I will no longer try to do that, as they arn't worth the keystrokes...........

Suffice to say, the FGI bunch was and is, so focused on bonuses and profits that they will NEVER again, be able to bring to market a quality Marlin Lever gun............The only thing a bucket of Beancounters can make is Soup.

Tom

[dpe.ahoy]

Tom and KON, Thank you both for speaking out here. Equipment that someone does not understand may "appear" to be worn out to an uneducated operator, yet one who knows what they are doing and looking, at can keep the equipment working fine. That Reminton rep certainly has his BS degree, and it ain't from a college. That crap is happening at my work now, new person wanting to sell equipment in a warehouse sale for $50 and the company just paid $850 for it and used it twice before the weather changed. Now we are going to need it again and would have had to go out and buy it all over again. Thank goodness I walked in before the buyer left and got the sale cancelled. I'm in that boat now myself, my position eliminated, no benefits on a temp job that has no more than 45 days left with the company, and have been there longer than the rest of the employees combined and twice as long as the director.

Now, how the hell do I reply to a PM with out including the quote?? DP

[Leverdude]

Yep, the 1895 is a modified 336.

I imagine there's a difference in the carrier in the area where the cartridge sits. It would probably need to be a little larger in that area. Bolt face is probably a little larger to accept the 45-70 rim.

The bolt face is much different, but the geometry is all the same, in other words all the holes & dimensions for moving parts are identical. I want to say the carriers are the same but I never checked. The rockers might be a little different to get the lifter to stop even with the bottom of the bigger chamber.
At any rate its no different really than the difference between a 1894C & a 1894. These guys would do better to just say theyre not sure what theyre doing.

[Golfbuddy45]

Well there you have it right out of the Horses Bttes mouth - The Remlin Factory Rep says that BobbyJr and Kon and TomRay are at fault for not showing their replacements in 6 months everything they knew about building Marlins for 30 years. So that is the gospel truth so help Obama. . . . . . Good Grief! It is too bad the the General Public that does not know better will believe this garbage . .

GB45

[oleroy]

I think I will take Kon's word over some Freedom group rep any day.

+1 & I totally agree

[quietman]

My understanding is the barrel / receiver threads are different on the Marlin Express series from the 336 / 1895. Wish I could find the article I read that in.

Seems to make sense with all the barrel receiver mating problems in the ME series that are very rare in a 336 series.

[44-40 Willy]

Yes, the barrel and receiver threads are different on the 308 and 338 guns.