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    Henry 30-30 with lead bullets?

    Has anyone tried lead cast bullets in their Henry? I recently acquired about 400 SNS Casting 158 grain coated 30-30 bullets. The price was right- they were free.

    So I'm loading some up with H4198. The load data calls for a starting load of 15 grains. Max is 17 grains. Velocities are supposed to be 1,400 to 1,600 fps.

    The reason the bullets were free is a friend bought them to try in an old bolt action 30-30 rifle. He tried a few of them at the range and apparently they leaded up his bore really bad. Not sure what type of loads he was making, but he gave up on them after that.
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    ditto1958,

    I have never used this cast bullet. However, the Mfg web site recommends below 1,250 fps for their wax lube and do not specify for the LLA coated version. My Lyman manual suggest 7 to 8 gr of Unique as a good start poing to stay under the recommended velocity. Lyman has IMR-4198 starting at 17.7 gr at 1,592 fps. H-4198 has been a little hotter when I have used it. Ex: 18.0 gr 145 gr cast at 1,700 in 26" barrel.

    Unique will not overfill the case when double charaged. Put a step in your load process to ensure you do not double charge if you go with Unique. Two load blocks, one for primed cases and one for charged cases plus a look down the neck with a flashlight is my safety process. Find a safety check that works for you and stick with it when you use any powder that will not overflow the case with a double charge.

    Also, try this reloading link for more ideas.

    http://www.reloadammo.com/3030load.htm
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    SNS says stay under 1,500 fps, and 1,750 fps for rifles. My starting load of 15 grains of H4198 should come in at around 1,400 fps.
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    I shoot a lot of lead .30-30 with good results. leading shouldn't be an issue as long as you stay .001 over groove diameter. I have best luck with 170 gr RNFP
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    Slugging your barrel would be a good first step, if you haven't done it yet. I shoot 165 gr Missouri Bullets in my 30-30, just little bunny fart plinkers running about 950 fps. Great can chasers, almost don't need ear protection,.... I said Almost.........
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    Went to the range this morning... and forgot my Henry. But, I did have my 1982 Marlin with me, equipped with its patented Micro-groove barrel. The polymer coated lead bullets shot just fine. They were a hoot to shoot, as they don't create much of any recoil. My scope stayed on the target, and I could watch those slow projectiles fly in and hit the steel.

    I thought Micro-groove barrels were supposed to be not good for lead cast bullets.
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    henry has normal lands and grooves and make excellent barrel bores, with a gas cheked boolit you should be able to get full velocity loads with .001 oversize and no leading, use a good lube like caranuba red and your good to go. I only have winchester 30-30's and never had any leading with full power loads 20 -25 grains spp210 which is just about the same as IMR4198 using both lee 150 and 170 grain gas checked cast boolits lubesized .310. Have shot many pounds of clip on wheel weights over the years.

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    in my 32 special cast loads my goto powder is 4759
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    I've shot cast bullets out of both ballard and micro-groove barrels in my Marlin 30-30 rifles and both barrels shoot them just fine.
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    Lyman data is very conservative probably for many reasons. I understand it, more people today than ever before jumping head first into gun ownership, shooting and reloading. Many newly minted reloaders brag online about starting out with full power reloads and beyond.
    The reality is cast bullets have been effectively shot at full velocity with no ill effects for many decades.


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