Got 500 of 170 HPCL from Powder Valley, use in everything 330 Sav, 308, 308 Marlin and 30-30. A LGS around here, is some kind of distributor for Remington bullets, sells all sorts of Rem bullets. Has 10s of thousands of the .30 170gr HPCL, but won't sell a single one, some sort of issue where Remington won't let him release this or that particular bullet, even thou he has them. Was driving me nuts, so really thanks 358 Win for the tip. I'll shoot commonly available 170s for load development, and save these for the hunt. As far as shooting hogs with this bullet at 30-30 speeds, it should work fine. Driven fast (2500fps) , I'm not sure it would go thru a large bear/hog, thou its deadly on skinny Virginia deer.
Years and years ago before the Nosler Ballistic tip bullets saw the light of day, I wanted quicker expansion on our NE PA Whitetails so my tag ended up on the ear instead of someone else's. I did not want to use lite for caliber "varmint" type bullets so I opted for the Speer Hot Core 170 grain 30-30 bullet loaded to 2500fps in my .308's. That Speer bullet turned out to be the hammer of thor on deer and I never recovered a single bullet. Always had complete penetration from any angle, even stem to stern. No deer EVER took a step when hit with my 170 grain Speer load. It impressed my hunting mates so much that they started loading the 170 grain Speer in their .308's and 30-06's with equal success.
I thought the Speer 170 grain Hot Core was so tough that I never ever loaded one for my 30-30's thinking they would not expand. My mind has changed since a few fellows on this forum have tested the Speer 170 grain for expansion and from their reports it expands and penetrates nicely. Have always been a fan of Speer bullets and have killed quite a few in 338 caliber and under. Never used them out of my .32 Win Specials, 35 Whelens or .358 Winchester deer kills. For those kills it has been either Hornady or Remington bullets. I'll be loading the Speer 170 grain Hot Core bullets in my 30-30's but first I have to use up all my Remington 170 grain HPCL and Hornady's I have on hand. May not live long enough but I'll give it a try.
Interesting, when the 170 REM HPLC supply began to run short here, I moved over to the Speer 170 HC for the 300 SAV. Haven't dropped that load into a deer yet. My feeling was it would do a very similar job, thanks for the confirmation. Notwithstanding my adoration of the HPLC, my opinion is that Speer produces superior flat point bullets especially in 35, and Hawk for round nose.
Originally Posted by 358 Win