Took the M45 in its Choate folder out to the range today after a long period of not shooting it. Had a variety of loads along, both factory and handloads to try out with the sh*tty Tasco ProPoint red dot sight I foolishly mounted. Well the Tasco performed as most of them do - shutting down intermittently due to the massive recoil of the Camp 45 (!) shifting the battery around (it worked great for years on the Ruger 10/22). But in between screwing around with the sight I fired off a 50 yard group with my preferred load of 200 XTP over 12.5 grains AA-7, and got the result below. This load shoots very very well all the time, this group was only slightly better than usual. Muzzle velocity is around 1250 fps for ~700 fpe, it is a +P load but below the max in the Accurate Arms Manual. This is completely adequate for short-range deer.
My secondary load is the same bullet over 10 grains of AA-5. Groups are twice as big but still plenty good enough. Velocity is about the same with both, the AA-5 load is slightly cleaner. Remington GoldenSabre 230 factory loads grouped around 1-1/2" at 50 yards. This little gun has always shot well with most - but not all - loads. I am ordering a Votrex Strikefire to replace the Tasco junk. I have seen friends have similar "luck" with Barska and NCStar crap. I always buy high quality scopes for my hunting and target rifles, and I can't see putting a $50 red dot sight on a $800 Camp Carbine.
I like my dots - Vortex V-Brite 4-12x40, Bushnell Trophy 1x20, SightMark MiniShot Reflex . . you'll like the Vortex
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I have had lousy luck with red dots up to and including the ACOG copy that Bushnell makes for $100. I really wanted one for my VZ-58, but it was the gun that broke my Bushnell, so I shelled out and got a EOTech. What an amazing site and it NEVER fails! It even shuts itself off after 8 hours, and runs a pretty long time on AA batteries. Nice group by the way.
good shooting I've had good results w/the Hornady 200gr C/T and the Remmy GS 185gr over Power Pistol I may have to try some #7
The Votrex StrikeFire showed up - what an improvement over the Tasco! Sure it costs more than the Tasco, but it is obviously much better built and it does not lose the dot from the M45's fearsome recoil. An Aimpoint is a better sight still, but $600+ just too hard to justify. Now the M-45 is a shooting machine, although I still want to replace the Weaver base.
What kind of varmint do you plan on shooting with your 45? The closest thing that comes to my mind is a groundhog but my shots have always been 200 yards and beyond.
mine would surely do for called in 'yotes.
Anyone that broke into my house at 3am would be called a Varmint so two in the chest and one in the head would work.
But we are talking about the 45ACP here and what does the poster I saw say - "45 ACP - because using more than one bullet is silly". Come get some.....
That is mighty fine shooting you done there with that Camp 45 !!
With shooting like that I guess you could shoot head shoot just about any varmint you wanted to.
The reference was to the sub-moa accuracy level the load demonstrated above. On mosts gun boards that is considered varmint accuracy - hense the title of the thread. But even mice would not be safe out at 50 yards with my M-45....assuming I have a good rest of course!What kind of varmint do you plan on shooting with your 45? The closest thing that comes to my mind is a groundhog but my shots have always been 200 yards and beyond.