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    Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    Just wondering if the lee 459-405-HB bullet works through the 1895 marlin action/ boolet not to pointy for the tube.

    I have a RD 460-350 mold but thought about a 405 grn mold. Hope someone out there has some advice. Thx.

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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    I have not. But I would try to contact Michael at Ranch Dog and ask him. He seems to know about all things Lee.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    The only bullet mold Lee makes for 45-70 that won't work in a tubular magazine is the 459-500-3R. All the other molds have a flat nose.
    The 459-405-HB would work fine if that's what you are looking for.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    I use the 459-405-HB in my Trapdoor springfield. It and the 459-500-3R are the only .459 molds listed by Lee. Cast from soft lead, I smear the grooves with thickened alox and shoot without sizing. Loaded to 1200fps they are quite pleasant to shoot.
    It should work very well in the 1895, as it has a short nose with a large flat.
    I measured one that I had on my desk.
    length 1.055
    diameter .460-.461
    nose flat diameter 0.190
    length of nose .425
    hollow base diameter 0.225
    hollow base depth 0.220
    They are easy to cast. When you open the mold, the bullet is sitting on the core pin. Turn over the mold and the bullet falls off easily.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    I should also note, I use the Lee 457-405-F and it drops them at 459. So just because it says 457, it doesn't always mean that is what it will drop.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    That bullet, lubed with NASA lube and loaded over a full load of Swiss 1 1/2F is one of the most accurate loads I have tried in my 1895 CB. I can hit 6 inch steel plates at 300M pretty regularly with it if the light is good. Never tried it with smokeless, it's just so much fun with black!

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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    Quote Originally Posted by supertodd
    Just wondering if the lee 459-405-HB bullet works through the 1895 marlin action/ boolet not to pointy for the tube.

    I have a RD 460-350 mold but thought about a 405 grn mold. Hope someone out there has some advice. Thx.
    Worked fine in mine.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    I worked up several smokeless loads for mine and I did not get very good accuracy. I was getting discouraged and tried a Lyman 457193 that someone on the cast bullet forum sent me and they shot like lasers so I quit mid stream in trying to get the 405 HB tuned in and bought a 457193 mold. Funny how different guns have different tastes in lead. I would be willing to trade the HB for some .357 brass if anyone is interested.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    I've had excellent results from this mould in my 1895GG (no ports).
    I've cast them from straight w/w, straight lead (Pb), and w/w with 3-4oz of lead free solder added to improve casting and heat treating properties.

    I cast them from straight lead for a friends Sharps repro in .45/90. He actually gave me the mould in return for some bullets as my casting set up is elaborate and results are much better than his efforts.

    I've loaded them with everything from 5gr of Bullseye to compressed charges of IMR4064 and RL15.
    I get ~1,900fps from the Imr4064 load and if I ever go to Alaska again, it's riding in the back of my plane........
    I size the "hard ones" to .459" with Lee sizer and then heat treat. After heat treating, I run them through the Lyman #450 at .459" and lube with SPG. Accuracy runs aobut 2" @ 100yds. They perforate deer splendidly. I typically don't use this load much as a 318gr RCBS FNGC is much more pleasant to shoot at same velocities and still completly penetrates anything that I've shot with it (several deer and hogs to ~300lbs) There is such a thing as "too much of a good thing"!!!.
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    Re: Has anyone tried the lee 459-405hb in a 1895g

    Quote Originally Posted by BSkerj
    I worked up several smokeless loads for mine and I did not get very good accuracy. I was getting discouraged and tried a Lyman 457193 that someone on the cast bullet forum sent me and they shot like lasers so I quit mid stream in trying to get the 405 HB tuned in and bought a 457193 mold. Funny how different guns have different tastes in lead. I would be willing to trade the HB for some .357 brass if anyone is interested.
    I don't have any 357 brass. If you still got the mold I would be interested in trading or buying.
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