Whats the best cast bullet for the 30-30 for killing whitetail? I was looking at rcbs 30-180-FN and lyman 311041. Is the lyman 311041 the same bullet as beartooth 173grs
Would it be a problem that the rcbs 30-180-FN would be past the neck of a 30-30 case?
I am going to buy some and see how they do, If I like them I will probley start casting them
I will be shooting these through a winchester 94 pre-64
The bullet with the largest meplat in a reasonable weight range would be your most effective option. The Lyman 311440 or Ranch Dog would be fine examples.
The Beartooth offering sure seems as if it is the Lyman 311041. Best bet would be to call and ask.
It is generally not desired for gas checks to extend below the case neck. In my opinion the RCBS 180 will be less than optimal in .30/30, but I don't see why you couldn't make it work.
Did you look at Ranchdog molds?Originally Posted by dale
He has a 165gr RF
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I use the RCBS 180 ran out just enough to touch the lands, and it works well (I do have a generous throat in the 336). I have one that requires a deeper seat, and still have good luck with the right load.
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I can't argue with the posts above in that the largest meplat provides the best slap factor, and the Ranch dog is designed for Marlin chambers and has the largest meplat and Lyman 31141 is in the the middle, and RCBS is the heaviest, but also has a healthy meplat. With OAL tweaking, they all work in all .30-30s I own , which is a healthy cross section from 1893 to present.
ALL boolits mentioned will do the job so long as they are:
1. gas checked, cast, and sized LARGE ENOUGH... always size through a .311 or .312 die unless your bore is really tight
2. cast HARD enough or quenched, or heat treated (I prefer a softer alloy heat treated to 18-22 brynell)
3. pushed at a moderrate 30-30 velocity (about 1900 fps) with a medium powder like RL 7, or 3031.
4. placed RIGHT. (I prefer the shoulder blade / spine junction in line with the front leg)
Accomplish this and you'll never have to track any critter.
Cast boolits in 160-190 graines at moderate velocity have enough penetration to take care of anything you're likely to encounter.
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Best is hard to define as it means different things to different people. I've had very good luck with the Lee 170 over the years but in the last few, the 165 Ranch Dog is what gets used. Very accurate with great knock down power.
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Another fan of the Ranch Dog. The reasons I like it are you can tumble lube or lubrisize it, the nose profile is made for lever guns and works well in my Winchesters even though they are designed for Marlin's. I just got my mold in for my 32-40 from Ranch Dog and cast a couple hundred up yesterday. Same design as my 30cal mold so I bet it will work good also. This will be shot from a 1923 mfg Win 94.
Of all my 30 caliber molds , I like my 165 Ranch Dog lots better
I have the Ranch Dog 165, and a Lyman 31141 an oldie with a hollow point with 2 pins. The RD is the real nice and easy to use and designed for lever guns.
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The chamber on my 1962 model Win 94 requires the brass to be trimmed a little to keep the RD165 from being engraved by the lands. Small price to pay for how well it shoots.