A lot of good thoughts fellas, keep'em coming..
Count me as another who likes the .444 shooting premium loads (I'd look for a 300gr A-Frame at 2100 FPS +/-, myself) as the better choice of the two mentioned. The rifle cartridge I'd choose as one with the best upside vs the least abuse from recoil would be the .35 Whelen with 225gr TSX or NP bullets @ 2600 FPS +/-. BTW, you can easily make your 30/06 into a .35W if you want. Part of the enjoyment of such an outstanding trip & hunt lies in the planning; enjoy it!
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Even though I started this thread, believe it or not, that's how I feel. Just wanted to see what everyone's opinion might be. Seems most like the T4. Which is funny, if you go back a little shy of 50 years, the ol T4 was barely good enough for deer!!I enjoy these "what are better" threads because 30 years ago - no one would have batted an eye at using a 30-06 for Alaskan game. Boys and their toys.
Two of the best factory cartridges for brown bear are the .375 H&H Magnum, using 270- and 300-grain bullets, and the newer .338 Winchester Magnum using 200- and 250-grain bullets. The recent .358 Norma Magnum cartridge, using 250-grain bullets of suitable construction, should be a fine brown-bear cartridge. The .30-caliber cartridges are less desirable, and the otherwise fine .300 H&H and .300 Weatherby Magnums, using 220-grain bullets, should be considered minimum. Cartridges under .30 caliber, even in "magnum" power, are not adequate for brown bear under average conditions.
And from page 287 of "Alaska Game Trails with a Master Guide; High adventure tales of fair chase with Alaska's first Master Guide - Hal Waugh," compiled by Charles J. Keim, published by Alaska Northwest Publishing Company in 1977, quoting a letter from Hal Waugh to Dr. Roy A. Schultz in 1972:
My personal opinion is: No 30 cal. is a good bear rifle. (emphasis in the original text)
Hal Waugh is a legend in Alaskan brown bear hunting history. Clearly, things have pretty much been the same for over 50 years...
If it was me, I would CHOOSE MY 444. I would load it with the Beartooth® HardCast 330gr LFN DCG GC Boolit. I would choose that over ANY 30/06 loading.
I would also be carrying my 41 Remington® Magnum revolver loaded with Federal® CastCore® 250gr WFN Hardcast Boolits; and a prayer on my lips.
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Not trying to argue in the slightest, but some of my thoughts were based off of this info regarding the use of a 30-06. Firearms and Ammunition for Hunting in Alaska, Alaska Department of Fish and Game
I think it's an immensely personal choice, and if you're comfortable with your '06, that's really all that matters. I happen to own a 338 Win Mag, and the recoil doesn't really bother me, so that would be my personal choice.