I believe you are correct that the 86's are made in Japan. Last I knew, you could get at least two 1895 Marlins for the price of one 1886 Winchester. I don't believe the Winchesters are twice Years ago, I was into S&W revolvers, especially nickel plated ones. About the time I was ready to get a model 57 41Mag(1980), the price skyrocketed. I could get two Ruger Blackhawks for the price of one S&W. Been shooting Blackhawks ever since. Think I'd go for the Marlin.