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    Hornday Leverevolution for 45-70 Question

    I was lucky enough to find a great 1993 JM stamped marlin 30-30 a couple of years ago and it is a great shooter.
    I put a Leupold VXII 2.5-7x32 scope on it and it is a blast to shoot.
    I tried the Hornady 160 grain and the 140 grain and this gun likes the 140 grain much better.
    Even with my 64 year old eyes it shoots 1" groups at 100 yards.

    I bought a 2002 Marlin 1895 45-70 Cowboy about 3 months ago and love it also.
    I put a Leupold FX 6x36 scope on it and it shoots the Hornady 325 grain very nice.

    A friend tried the Hornady 250 grain in his Winchester and said it shoots the ammo great and the recoil is more manageable.

    I would love to hear your opinions of the Hornady 250 grain in my gun with the 1:20 twist and your thoughts on the 2 loads
    for deer.

    The Hornady Site shows a significant difference in Energy between the 2 loads although the Velocity is very close.

    The 250 grain is also "copper" while the 325 grain is more conventional.

    Thanks!
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    I have Fired both in my 1895G, Accuracy was about the same for each, 1 1/2 " at 90 yds from a rest with open sights. Recoils is less with the 250's but not a great deal less.
    For White tail deer at practical 45-70 ranges, I didn't see any great difference in killing power either. Both were amply sufficient, and quite effective. 3 deer with the 325's and 2 with 250's, all at less than 100 yds. 1 Shoulder shot(inadvertent) with a 325, and 4 lung shots. None of the deer went more than 15 yds after being shot, and 2 dropped immediately, 1 with a 325, and one with a 250.
    Recovered only 1 bullet, a 250 that was about 65 caliber in diameter, the others went through.I plan to try the 325 on a hog this year.
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    If your deer hunting it won't make any real difference. they won't know what hit them. Get a box of both and see whaich one shoots the best and go with it. I shoot the 300gr JHP hornady bullet in my 45-70 and it just lays deer out flat dead. Either one of the flex tips will good you good performance.
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    Thanks - I plan to buy a box of the Hornady 250 grain and compare the accuracy at 100 yards to the 325 grain.
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    I've killed deer and hogs with the 325s. They work pretty well, longest shot was maybe 65 yards. The one bad things about the 325s is that if you have any plans for reloading, the only bullet you can stuff in the once-fired brass is more FTX 325. SAAMI length for 45-70 brass is 2.055", but the ones for the 325 are cut down to 2.040" on account of the long (for a 45-70) ogive on those bullets.
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    Shooting dirt clods on the other side of my "pond" such as it is from my porch, lead cast bullets just thumps the dirt, the Hornady FTX blows a crater in the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_zim View Post
    I've killed deer and hogs with the 325s. They work pretty well, longest shot was maybe 65 yards. The one bad things about the 325s is that if you have any plans for reloading, the only bullet you can stuff in the once-fired brass is more FTX 325. SAAMI length for 45-70 brass is 2.055", but the ones for the 325 are cut down to 2.040" on account of the long (for a 45-70) ogive on those bullets.
    I believe the SAAMI case length maximum is 2.105" (not 2.055"). Maximum cartridge length is 2.550". Possibly a mixing of the numbers here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_zim View Post
    I've killed deer and hogs with the 325s. They work pretty well, longest shot was maybe 65 yards. The one bad things about the 325s is that if you have any plans for reloading, the only bullet you can stuff in the once-fired brass is more FTX 325. SAAMI length for 45-70 brass is 2.055", but the ones for the 325 are cut down to 2.040" on account of the long (for a 45-70) ogive on those bullets.
    Well I got me a Lee crimping tool and I can load any Jacketed bullet I want in them cases (lead too).
    Reloading was kinda invented for this cartridge ya know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDN45-70 View Post
    I believe the SAAMI case length maximum is 2.105" (not 2.055"). Maximum cartridge length is 2.550". Possibly a mixing of the numbers here?
    Right. SAAMI length is 2.105 for an empty case. It's 2.040 for the brass for the 325 FTX. And I had my Hornady 10th edition manual open next to me when I wrote that yesterday afternoon, and had just spent a couple hours at the bench reloading some 405 gr lead, LOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by me View Post
    Well I got me a Lee crimping tool and I can load any Jacketed bullet I want in them cases (lead too).
    Reloading was kinda invented for this cartridge ya know.
    That's true, but if you try to use the cases that have to be cut down for the 325 FTX for other bullets, you might have some results that you don't care for.
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