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    Bullet recommendations for micro groove

    Well for a long time now I have been trying to figure out a good bullet and load for my 45-70 with the micro groove barrel. I have tried many and keep failing. The best I have gotten is about a 10in group at 100yrds. I have tried various oversized cast and a few copper jacketed with no results. I do hand load but don't cast my own.

    Anyone got any good recommendations?

    Thanks
    Colin
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    You didn't mention your gun. My 1895 SS loves the Speer 400 and the Remington 405 gr bullets.
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    Sorry it's a 1895 with the standard barrel (22in I think)
    I am looking for one bullet for elk sized animals. Thanks I will look into the speers. Also the barrel is clean and shinny before each outing
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    I gave you the bullets that are most accurate in my gun. The nearest elk to me is in a zoo. The Speer is more fragile than the Remington. You will have to do more research on a good elk bullet. Maybe the Hornady 350 flat nose or the Remington. Sorry no experience on elk.
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    I don't shoot jacketed bullets out of my 1895, I've only used cast bullets that I cast my self with a Ranch Dog 425gr Mold.
    If I didn't cast my own, I'd shoot Carolina Cast bullets. They use the Ranch Dog design which is made for Marlins.

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    Lots of variables but are you using a scope or open sights? With a scope and handloads my 1895s will do 1-2" all day but with open sights things open up considerably. One of the drawbacks to getting older I guess.
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    Colin,

    Had a .44mag with the micro groove and it shot cast just fine!

    No question it is very likely you will find a good "J" bullet load faster then a cast, as it does not have the huge number of variables found with cast.

    You have not stated the size of the cast boolit you've tested.

    Then I'd say, forget "J" bullets, unless going to the high end products. Some "J" bullets just lack a major amount of integrity. Waaaaay to soft for relyable elk bullets.

    Can you say Hornady gummy nose?

    Yes, almost all of them will take an elk if everything is text book perfect, but when the fat needs to be pulled from the fire, that is when quality becomes very affordable, cheap even.

    I have two elk down now to a 465gr WFN cast, sent out of the muzzle at 1600 - 1700fps, and IT WILL pull the fat out of the fire! Over the top effective even in a quartering shot!

    DON'T give up on the cast boolits! There is enough info on this forum and the Cast Boolit Forum to get you squared away.

    One of the first questions you will need to answer is, "did you measure/slug your bore?"

    Well did you?

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    What size cast bullets have you tried, if I might ask?
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    I have shot remington 405 jacketed factory loads out of my 1976 made 45-70 micro groove with 22" barrel and have great accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin View Post
    Well for a long time now I have been trying to figure out a good bullet and load for my 45-70 with the micro groove barrel. I have tried many and keep failing. The best I have gotten is about a 10in group at 100yrds. I have tried various oversized cast and a few copper jacketed with no results. I do hand load but don't cast my own.

    Anyone got any good recommendations?

    Thanks
    Colin
    I think you may problems. How are you cleaning the barrel and how often? You don't need to clean much with cast bullets that aren't leading, but if they are or if you're using jacketed you need. How often varies. A MG barrel should shoot both oversize cast (.460 up) and jacketed well. If you're starting with a squeaky clean barrel look at your loads, the crown, barrel restrictions and shooting technique


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