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    Good scope/bad scope?

    Well,... I through a 1.5x4.5 Bushy on my latest this morning, a 444, and went to my desert shooting grounds.

    Only had one box of Rem 240's,... still waiting for my order of 265 Hornady's.

    Things were going well at 30 yards, to double check my bore sighting. At 100yds, things went well also.

    But, then at 175yds, after a dozen or so rounds, things started getting queer after the 2nd volley.

    I strongly believe the scope went bad. Adjustments suddenly weren't true.

    Has anyone blown out a Bushy on a 444? I have had this same scope on my 30.06 with no probs. My guess is, it just couldn't take the recoil. I'm putting on another and will see what materializes when I get my ammo next week.

    What do y'all think? Marlin 444 too heavy a recoil for some scopes? Bushnell good scope / bad scope?

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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    I would suspect the scope first, mounts/rings second. I've had no trouble with old Weave base and tip-off rings mounting old (El Paso) Weaver scopes on my 444S.
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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    I had a scope go bad on my .300 Weatherby - sounds just like how you described it. Are you now off at 100 yards too?

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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanT
    I had a scope go bad on my .300 Weatherby - sounds just like how you described it. Are you now off at 100 yards too?
    After the failure to adjust at 175 yds, I went back to 50 yds. Same thing happened.

    I just pulled out a couple of old classics,... a heavy steel Weaver 1.5 x 4.5 and a Redfield Lo-Pro 3x9. Anyone ever blow out one of these on a 444?

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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    It just happens. I have had Bushnells, Burris and Leupolds do it.
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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    This is the first one to go bad on me. I guess there is a first time for everything!

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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    I've even shaken a scope to pieces on an airgun. Mounts come loose too, particularly when not installed carefully enough. Some scopes, such as Leupold VXIII 1.5-5X20 are well known to be tough and recoil tolerant. Use a good tough scope and use Locktite on high quality mounts like Talley. You'll be fine.
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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    I really don't think the recoil of a 444 is enough to damage a scope unless it was faulty to begin with. They test these things under a lot more recoil than you'll get from a 444.
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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    Quote Originally Posted by duhawki647
    I've even shaken a scope to pieces on an airgun. Mounts come loose too, particularly when not installed carefully enough. Some scopes, such as Leupold VXIII 1.5-5X20 are well known to be tough and recoil tolerant. Use a good tough scope and use Locktite on high quality mounts like Talley. You'll be fine.

    FWIT,
    Actually, I have read where an "airgun" has more jolting recoil on scopes, than moderate caliber ammo.


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    Re: Good scope / bad scope?

    I fire a 265 gr hornady
    on top of 42 grs imr4198
    out of my 444 sporting a
    28 dollar simmons 4x
    turkey scope-scope
    has held up fine-


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