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    Quote Originally Posted by toad67 View Post
    I'll try to get some pics up soon. If the last of the parts from Marlin went to Remington to complete guns and were used up where did the "JM" stamped barrel come from? Do you suppose that it was back there before all of the parts were used up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Roy View Post
    Did you buy the gun New or Used?
    Used

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    Quote Originally Posted by toad67 View Post
    Used
    That's what I figured.

    The gun did not come from the factory with a MR receiver and a JM stamped barrel.

    Somebody has installed an older JM proofed barrel on the Remlin receiver...
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    Or and mind you this is just a guess. It came with a jm barrel and receiver (91 ser. # possibly) and was replaced with a mr receiver at remington, then someone decided to sell it. I know people have reported on mo that they have sent back 91# guns and had to have receivers replaced. Just a thought.
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    So, there is no number available? Just the REM or JM stamp?
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    Bringing this back up... for additional clarification. I am not sure I get any consistency from what I just read.

    I'll add mine to the mix

    I did buy this one new in the box in April of 2009.

    Serial number starts with 92XXXXXX Right side of Barrel roll mark shows New Haven Connecticut but oval with JM on LEFT side (same side as the roll mark). This appears to be a true Marlin made in CT gun. However add that a 336 with a serial range starting with 92 was built, delivered and sold in early 09.

    To add to that, an Xs7 I just bought that was used. Shows a Kentucky made roll mark and serial number starts with MM. An oval with REP inside it on the RIGHT side of the barrel (opposite side from the roll mark) with a 6 in front of that oval (outside the oval). I don't know the age of this one but it obviously must be a Remington overseen unit?
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    I have personally examined two Remlins with JM stamped barrels. Both used guns with 91XXXX serial numbers. I know that they were Remlins because the JM was obviously a fake and there was faint evidence of the REP being polished off and re-blued. At first glance the JM looked authentic but with no oval, then closer examination showed the letters to be of a different font. BEWARE - fakes are showing up.

    The JM proof can be on either left or right side of a real Marlin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBledsoe View Post
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    I have personally examined two Remlins with JM stamped barrels. Both used guns with 91XXXX serial numbers. I know that they were Remlins because the JM was obviously a fake and there was faint evidence of the REP being polished off and re-blued. At first glance the JM looked authentic but with no oval, then closer examination showed the letters to be of a different font. BEWARE - fakes are showing up.

    The JM proof can be on either left or right side of a real Marlin.
    Hard for me to believe someone would go to this expense but, I'll take your word on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skmarsh77 View Post
    To really be on the safe side stick to serial numbers that start with 93. they still had left over barrels with the jm stamp even after the move and I believe those 91 numbered receivers were used in 2010 also. So to be on the safe side I now only buy pre freedom group/cerebus. 93 and older for me.

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    NO!..........NOT TRUE..........The JM Proof stamp is now unique to any rifle assembled and proofed in North Haven. The Stamp is NOT applied to barrels not yet assembled.

    We (Marlin workers) did send a large quantitiy of "Parts" to Ilion, to be assembled there, and yes, those barrels sent, did have North Haven Roll marks, but the Proof Mark was not present at that stage of the process............................

    Ilion either never received the JM Proof stamp gun?..........Or, they didn't know what it was?................Or they decided to unify all rifles proofed at the remington plant with the REP marking.

    Your suggestion to look for 93XX or older numbered rifles is on the mark.............That would insure a North Haven rifle, that was most likely NOT made in the Assy Cell, but completely made by one gunsmith......That rifle will have some unique assembly markings within the receiver parts that identify the gunsmith that built that rifle.........

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