First of all, can a 336 be converted to the 7mm-08? (I don't think so.)
What needs to be done to convert it to 7-30 Waters? Is it involved and is it expensive?
I just want a 336 with a little bit more umph and better trajectory than the .30-.30.....(please, no flames )
The 7mm-08 has too much pressure. 7-30 Waters is just a rebarrel job. Never shot one but should be a lite recoiling gun.
The Leverevolution "gummy tip" ammo is supposed to give you just that.Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Several years ago there was an article in Shooting Times by Lane Simpson where he took a 336 in 356 Win and rebarreled it to a cartridge he called the 7mm Shooting Times Easterner.307 Win. brass necked down to 7mm with a 40 degree shoulder.A 7-08 Improved with a rim.
That's probably the best way to go. Thanks.Originally Posted by twodot
Buy a .308MX and have the bbl relined to 7mm
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I wonder what bullet you would use with the 7-30 waters?
If you want a lighter bullet with more velocity, you can't do much better than
shooting the Speer 130 FP out of your 30-30.
Or take Swany's advise and buy a 308ME and shoot the Speer 130
I have seen one or two Win'94s in 7-30 Waters. And the T/C keeps the 7-30 alive; the way the Marlin 336 keeps 35 Rem alive, big kudos to both.
The limitation of the 7-30 (in leverguns) is the same as with all RN bullets namely the BC. The LE ammo addresses that limitation directly. The 30-30 LE extends the point-blank-range of the 30-30 from:
225yds with 150gr RN bullet and
210yds with 170gr RN bullet to
250yds with 160gr LE bullet.
And a really good shot can do a lot better with any of them; the operator is the ultimate limitation. I like the 30-30 170gr, and if I'm hunting where I'll might get a shot beyond 200yds, I take the old Remington in 308Win.
I'm guessing that with the LE catching on, we won't see Marlin offering one in 7-30. Unless its a LE style 7-30, now that's a thought...
The best case 30-30 Leverevolution MPBR is 225yds and thats pushing it with a 24" barrel and +3.16"@100yd and -3.18"@225
Acceptable MPBR is 3" rise and fall.
A 20" isn't going to do as well. +3"@100yds and -3" at about 215yds, down over 7" at 250yds. I like a 150yd Zero for a 30-30 for deer.
Which, mind you, is good enough not to justify a rebore for deer.
The 30-30 with more umph would be the 308MX
Triggernosis If you want to convert a 30/30 to a 7-30 waters all you got to do is find a 7-30 waters 24" barrel to fit a 30/30 Win. 94 receive and a good gunsmith. Contact Green Mountain Barrels they may have the barrel you want or make it for you.
dgslr Has good evidents that a 7mm-08 can be done.
Will the future see other gummy calibers yes if there is a market.
My opinion just by the leverevolution 30/30 and be done with it.
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