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    336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    First of all, can a 336 be converted to the 7mm-08? (I don't think so.)

    What needs to be done to convert it to 7-30 Waters? Is it involved and is it expensive?

    I just want a 336 with a little bit more umph and better trajectory than the .30-.30.....(please, no flames )

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    The 7mm-08 has too much pressure. 7-30 Waters is just a rebarrel job. Never shot one but should be a lite recoiling gun.

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Triggernosis
    I just want a 336 with a little bit more umph and better trajectory than the .30-.30.....
    The Leverevolution "gummy tip" ammo is supposed to give you just that.
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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    Several years ago there was an article in Shooting Times by Lane Simpson where he took a 336 in 356 Win and rebarreled it to a cartridge he called the 7mm Shooting Times Easterner.307 Win. brass necked down to 7mm with a 40 degree shoulder.A 7-08 Improved with a rim.

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    Quote Originally Posted by twodot
    The Leverevolution "gummy tip" ammo is supposed to give you just that.
    That's probably the best way to go. Thanks.

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    Buy a .308MX and have the bbl relined to 7mm
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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    I wonder what bullet you would use with the 7-30 waters?
    If you want a lighter bullet with more velocity, you can't do much better than
    shooting the Speer 130 FP out of your 30-30.
    Or take Swany's advise and buy a 308ME and shoot the Speer 130

    Bob

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    I have seen one or two Win'94s in 7-30 Waters. And the T/C keeps the 7-30 alive; the way the Marlin 336 keeps 35 Rem alive, big kudos to both.

    The limitation of the 7-30 (in leverguns) is the same as with all RN bullets namely the BC. The LE ammo addresses that limitation directly. The 30-30 LE extends the point-blank-range of the 30-30 from:
    225yds with 150gr RN bullet and
    210yds with 170gr RN bullet to
    250yds with 160gr LE bullet.
    And a really good shot can do a lot better with any of them; the operator is the ultimate limitation. I like the 30-30 170gr, and if I'm hunting where I'll might get a shot beyond 200yds, I take the old Remington in 308Win.

    I'm guessing that with the LE catching on, we won't see Marlin offering one in 7-30. Unless its a LE style 7-30, now that's a thought...

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    The best case 30-30 Leverevolution MPBR is 225yds and thats pushing it with a 24" barrel and +3.16"@100yd and -3.18"@225

    Acceptable MPBR is 3" rise and fall.

    A 20" isn't going to do as well. +3"@100yds and -3" at about 215yds, down over 7" at 250yds. I like a 150yd Zero for a 30-30 for deer.

    Which, mind you, is good enough not to justify a rebore for deer.

    The 30-30 with more umph would be the 308MX

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    Re: 336 in 7mm-08 or 7-30 Waters ?

    Triggernosis If you want to convert a 30/30 to a 7-30 waters all you got to do is find a 7-30 waters 24" barrel to fit a 30/30 Win. 94 receive and a good gunsmith. Contact Green Mountain Barrels they may have the barrel you want or make it for you.

    dgslr Has good evidents that a 7mm-08 can be done.

    Will the future see other gummy calibers yes if there is a market.

    My opinion just by the leverevolution 30/30 and be done with it.
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