I am tring to deside between the two my shots will be 150 yards max. The 45 colt would have more killing power I would think when handloaded in a strong action. i was looking at a 1894 45 colt 24" barrel or a 336T 30-30 18 1/2 barrel. I was thinking about getting a 45-70 but it will probley be over kill for my area shot are 50 to 75 yds and the deer arn't that big and cost more to reload.
The 45 Colt won't out kill a 30-30 on a bad day with the worst of Walmart 30-30 ammo. Your best 45 Colt range using hopped up mail order Buffalo Bore would be under 125 yards.
45/70 isn't "overkill", its a very versatile all around cartridge.
I would choose the gun you like best then practice a lot. The 30-30 would be easier on the long shots. Second thought buy them both then take turns
The 45 long colt will put a hurtin' on a deer probably harder than the 30-30 would due to the bullet weight. I hot rod my hunting loads for my 1894CB in 45 long colt and I'm going to feel sorry for the deer that so happens to walk out in front of it. Puts the 44 mag to shame....
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If you agree with 186Tmanbuckhunter on the "weight" then you might as well go 45/70.
Which one calls to you the most? The deer ain't gonna know the difference and shot placement is as always paramount. I sold my .45-70, gave some thought to buying a .30-30 but decided to hot-rod my .45. The choice was a little easier for me because I already had the .45.
The .30-30 will shoot a little flatter than the .45. I'm not sure but I think the cost of ammo for both are about the same. If you reload the .30-30 is still a .30-30 but, a .45 can be stoked up like tman said. Mine is launching a 255gr. LRNFP @ almost 1600fps.
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The 45 colt is calling to me the most. I already have a ruger bisley 45 colt. I have shot lot of deer with a 30-30 It has never let me down just want to try something different.
It called to me too so don't feel bad. I got it for $279 which was below Ellett Wholesale.
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There's your answer right there get you a 30-30 and also carry your bisley use whichever you want. I killed my first deer with a handgun last year and wasn't impressed. I shot the deer at 75 yds broadside and I put a textbook perfect shot on the deer just behind the shoulder it went through the lung and heart and opposite shoulder bone and stopped just under the skin on the opposite side. Completely destroyed the shoulder mass destruction through the deer. The deer ran 50 yds before going down it was stumbling but went that far. When it went down it didn't move any completely dead. But this was with a 350 gr hornady xtp bullet out of a 500 S&W mag. It wasn't what I expected at all I was looking for a bang flop it didn't happen. The next time I handgun hunt I will shoot for the shoulder and try to break it down instead of shooting for the vitals. I bought some new bullets to try that should do great for this they are the 700gr cast bullets that Ranger rick makes in Alaska he calls them tyranasorus thumpers they should give me a bang flop if I hit heavy bone and push it out the other side.