I am thinking of getting a Marlin 336 30/30. All of my other rifles are in 243 Remington. I live in North Dakota so most of my shooting is done on open plains. Although I don't take shots much more than 100 yards.
How does the 30/30 campare to the 243 Remington?
Not at all. Two entirely different critters. The 30-30 is a 200 yard gun with good stopping power. The 243 is a long range shooter and not as good on deer size game as the 30-30 within it's range limitations. For those 100 yard shots you take the 30-30 is a better choice IMO. I have killed plenty deer with a Model 7 243 but just love the 30-30. Everyone should have a least one 30-30 and a Marlin to boot.
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Under 100 yds I think the logical choice would be the 30 30. I might not be the one with the most informed opinion as I have never owned a 243. But I sure do love that lil brush gun.
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Thanks for the quick replies.
What range of bullet weights are available?
Is there a big difference in the noise level between the 30/30 and 243?
Would the velocity of the 30/30 tear a skunk size animal to pieces if I were to use it instead of my 22WRM on varmints around the house and barn?
If I could hit them that is.
NRA 79, you are doing some fine shottin if you are shooting 250-300 yards with a 30-30.
PoorShot, you can get bullets for the 30-30 from 110 grains up to 170 in various brands. Rem even makes what they call an accelerator with a 55 grain saboted bullet for varmints but they are expensive and hard to find in some places.
Noise? I can't tell but my ears ain't what they once were. The Marlin 30-30's and most all Marlins are very accurate. Will shoot with most any bolt gun within their range limitations.
Just a good all around rifle and all around cartridge.
"What range of bullet weights are available?"
If we were to limit the discussion to factory loads, normally, it's 125 to 170 grain. Lighter specialty bullets are available but considerably less common.
"Is there a big difference in the noise level between the 30/30 and 243?"
They're both pretty loud. The .243, due to using a little more of slower burning powder at higher pressures, has a bit more blast IMO but neither are all that quiet.
"Would the velocity of the 30/30 tear a skunk size animal to pieces if I were to use it instead of my 22WRM on varmints around the house and barn?"
Yep. Don't want to leave a skunk partially dead, do you? Just blast 'em with the .30-30 and you sure won't have to worry about being sprayed.
A .30-30 can do very well with standard factory loads and simple bullet construction as its milder velocity is easier on the bullet in terms of holding together. A .243 must shoot premium bullets such as the Nosler Partition to equal its reliability on deer.
Some will tell you, and I won't argue the point, that at woods ranges the .30-30 is superior to the .243. Of course, it's not the long range varmint cartridge the .243 is, but it is very good at moderate ranges on deer.
Shot a skunk and groundhog with 30/30 and factory 170gr. Winchester Silvertips, my favorite Deer load, NASTY!! :P
I like a .243 myself, have seen Deer nosedive after being hit by .100gr .243 slugs. I think the 30/30 is a more versitle caliber and gun than the .243 especially under 100 yards BUT,, I believe the .243 too have more "shock" value than the 30/30 on game because of the higher velocity. It's hard too beat a good Marlin in 30/30 or 35 Remington under 100 yards. My favorite load,factory 170gr. Winchester SilverTips, my gun shoots 1/4" groups all day at 80 yards with them.
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"Although I don't take shots much more than 100 yards. How does the 30/30 campare to the 243 Remington?"
IMHO, and experience, there is no effective difference with that 100 yd. criteria. And it's a good one.
With proper bullets the .243 will punch right through. The .30-30 will do that with any bullet made for it. No deer will run far with holes in both lungs, no matter how it's made. With a good hit, they will soon fall.
Thanks for all of the replies. Now I am thinking maybe a 336 in .35. I don't know. I found a 336 like new probably never shot for $399.99. I didn't get the model number. I think I will be able to check it out tomorrow again. If I get it I will let you all know.
Go for the 35. It has all the power you will ever need for deer size game and leverevolution ammo lets you stretch out for those longer ranges. It is also nice to have a rifle that not everyone has heard of. If you do go for the 35 do yourself a favor and get into reloading.
Now I am not knocking the 30-30 but to me the 35 rem is just more fun.
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