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    IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    I am going to purchase some IMR 3031 soon to use with 150gr bullets for my 30-30. Does anyone here have a favorite load with this powder and 150gr bullets they can share. I know the time tested favorite load with this powder is 30gr under a 170gr bullet. However my rifle prefers the 150gr variety, at least in factory form. At the moment I have Hornady, Sierra, and Speer 150gr bullets on hand.
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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Use more than one data source (reloading manual from a manufacturer, not online recipes)

    I have three, Speer (my favorite), Lyman and Lee. I choose Speer first because the data is the most objective. Lyman is overlly conservative to the point that it affects the usefulness of their data. Lee's data is affected by his persoanl preferences and his past dealings with others in the industry.

    My load for 30-30 is 29gr IMR 3031 with Remington Flat Point 150s. It aint gonna set no record but it does the job and thats all I ever wanted. The 30-30s I have all seem to like it well enough. Start with a lesser loading, load twenty shells and bench them. Go up as you wish and stop before you get outside safe limits. Decide which if any loads had better accuracy. This is based on the 3031, if yoy want to try Reloader 7 consult the books, Ive never used it.
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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    I am shooting nearly the exact load as Roosterb, except I am using Speer 150 gr flat points. I loaded 60 rounds of it this afternoon. Not close to my Speer manual at the moment, but pretty sure it says that load is good for 2200 fps give or take few. IMR 3031 is a great all around rifle powder. I will go to the shack and check on the fps.


    Actually my old Speer manual says 28.9 grains of 3031 for 2200 fps, so 29 should bump that a tad.

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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    This works for me:

    Rifle: 1951 336SC in .30-.30.
    Scope: Nikon Prostaff 2-7x.
    Powder: IMR 3031 30.0 gr.
    Case: Winchester.
    Primer: Winchester LR.
    Bullet: Winchester Power Point 150 gr FP.
    5 shot 100 yd group size: 1.375".

    The Hodgdon website lists 30.5 gr of 3031 as the max load for .30-.30 with Winchester LR primers for a 150 gr Sierra FN bullet. Several years ago, IMR's printed literature designated a max of 31.1 gr of 3031 for .30-.30 with Remington 9.5 primers and a Sierra 150 gr RN bullet. The Winchester primers have a reputation of being a bit hotter than others, and that alone may explain the difference. It is also possible that Hodgdon did some updated pressure testing after they took over IMR, and lowered the max as a result.

    I view published maximums as "do not exceed" values, as I have only one set of eyes and fingers. Also, most of us use .30-.30s with the knowledge that the ongoing magnum craze is fueled more by testosterone than logic, and it is inconsistent to choose a .30-.30 and then try to muscle it over maximums to chase a velocity value unlikely to improve on accuracy and terminal performance in the field.

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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Thanks for the help folks. For some reason I have had nothing but miserable results with these bullets and W748. So I'm thinking 3031 will hopefully give me better results. However I've found out that IMR 3031 is temperature sensitive which could be a problem as I live in upstate NY. So I'm also considering H322 now as well.
    Still puttin' em on the ground with pappys' ol' 30-30/444 Team member#70.

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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Never had any trouble with temps, and 3031. Lots of factory ammo was loaded with 3031 for years, and may still be. One thing I have found out over the years with various powders is that the maximum load is very seldom the most accurate. Most of my 30-30's shoot 170 grain bullets a lot better than the 150's.

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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Quote Originally Posted by coss
    I view published maximums as "do not exceed" values, as I have only one set of eyes and fingers. Also, most of us use .30-.30s with the knowledge that the ongoing magnum craze is fueled more by testosterone than logic, and it is inconsistent to choose a .30-.30 and then try to muscle it over maximums to chase a velocity value unlikely to improve on accuracy and terminal performance in the field.
    Those are some well said understatements that should be repeated often until they start to sink in.
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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    You can say that again,

    "... the ongoing magnum craze is fueled more by testosterone than logic, and it is inconsistent to choose a .30-.30 and then try to muscle it over maximums to chase a velocity value unlikely to improve on accuracy and terminal performance in the field."

    This sort of "truth telling" will not sell gun magazines but it sure needs to be heard. Good for you, coss!
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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Thanks for the help guys I guess I will give IMR 3031 a try. Trust me folks I don't live on the raggedy edge nor do I try to make my 30-30 into something its' not. I just want a good accurate load.
    Still puttin' em on the ground with pappys' ol' 30-30/444 Team member#70.

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    Re: IMR 3031 150gr loads.

    Some of the fellers around here act like they would be embarrassed to be caught out packing an old 30-30. For a little extra distance I load spire points in my 30-30's sometimes for coyote, and groundhog shooting. I just put one in the chamber, and one in the tube for safety reasons, but you can sure stretch them out quite a bit. I loaded 40 rounds a few night ago with 110 grain Sierra Spire points with 32 grains of 3031. It has the old 30-30 up to about 2700 fps. With RE-7 the 110 grain bullets can reach very close to 3000 fps on the spire points. That turns the 30-30 into a good varmint round. I applied for a Montana antelope tag, and If drawn I will will be toting my 30-30 with one or the other of these loads.


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