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    35 Rem vs 45-70

    I have done a search and can't find out what I want to know, so I will ask the experts.

    I have just bought a 1895 GS and am having some regrets about not buying a "guide gun" in 35 Rem. I have been talking to big medicine about a 336D, but I really want a stainless (which I found 2 on GA). I have also been looking at factory ammo ballistics, and from what I have seen, there really might not be enough difference to make a change.

    Since I already have two Marlin 30-30's and now a 45-70 (which I would probably sell if I bought a 35 Rem), would there be any "advantage" to getting the 35 Rem?

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    35 Rem vs 45-70

    To me honestly it personal preference as the 30-30 and 35 are so ballisticly close in my opinion.. 35 to 45/70 is like PB and Mayo .. huge difference.. Like most others here I would love to have one of each caliber .. but champagne taste and beer wallet prevent that.. so I stick with what I can and will use most.. being the 30-30.. as far as centerfire goes..
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    I'm not sure what the question was... I wasn't happy until I had ALL the calibers! I do have the little 336D and consider it a very, very fine rifle. I also have the 1895G (and a 444P) and will probably end up with a 1895M even though I have the 1895MR. That way I have the complete guide gun line up.

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    retrieverman,
    I have both calibers, but not in guide guns. If I had to choose in a GG, it would have to be one of each. In the real hunting world, that short barrel makes it easier to carry, but cuts down on the sighting radius. And scoping one, would defeat the entire idea of a trim little package.
    As for the calibers, let me offer an anology, that the 45-70 in weight at 405 grains is nearly a 12 ga slug. The 35 Remington at a 200 grain bullet, would be like a 20 or 28 ga slug, although at a faster speed. It is a technology difference. Big and moderate vs smaller and faster.
    Without writing a chapter on the subject and if you want it, just PM me, I am a lot happier with my 45-70's for just about everything out to 100 yards. The rifles will shoot further, but I cannot do so with open sights. Beyond that, I am grabbing one of my Weatherbys or my Browning 300 Win mag. Give the task of a big pig or a blackie, it's the 45-70 for me, but either cartridge can be improved considerably when hand loaded.
    Give the 45-70 a chance and I'm betting you will like it too.
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    bestboss

    I had a friend tell me the exact same thing last night, and though I would love to have both calibers, I am going to stick to the 45-70 for now (especially since I already have the WWG trigger installed). I know this is sacreligious, but I am going to have to scope my GS. I have shot it open sights and just can't see well enough to shoot it past 25-30 yards.

    My scope and 4 boxes of LeverEv ammo will be here tomorrow, needless to say, I have a range visit and hog hunt planned for later this week.

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    retrieverman,
    I would very much like to see pictures of your ham hunt. I'll bet those Leverevolutions will punch the 'ol critters ticket just fine!
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    The best thing to to is just get the .35 and stop whining!
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    For me it`s which one is the lightest.........weight wise.
    Ok, I`ll confess, I own a 336RC in .35.
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    How about a 357 Mag?

    For what I was planning on using the 35 Rem for, I think I will be better off with a 357 Magnum. Yes, you can load the 35 Rem down and match it, but at a loss of efficiency. Person preference here.

    I'm thinking 180 gr bullets at moderate velocity. 1000 to 1200 fps. Or 200 gr bullets at 900 fps. If you want to hot rod, go for the 35 Rem. I think the 357 will work for my plans.

    So I'll be shooting my 45-70 at 1200-1500 fps with those huge 420 gr bullets. I'm betting that it will make me smile! Then when I find that 357, I can smile twice as much!

    Zim

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    35 Rem vs 45-70

    Speaking from experience, the 35 Marlin is all you need for deer, hogs, or black bear.

    Meaning no disrespect to anyone and I am not trying to start an agrument, but a 30-30 and 35 Marlin are not the same in the field. I don't care how you load a 30-30, it is not going to equal a 200 grain Remington bullet at 2200 ft/sec in 358 diameter. I don't know how Leverevolution ammo performs, but I suspect it will widen the performance gap between 30-30 and 35 rifles using factory ammo.

    Back to the original question, everybody needs a big bore. Keep it, use it, and save your money up to purchase a 35 Marlin for next year. If you get paid twice a month, save $25 per pay day. You will be able to purchase one rifle per year this way. Don't trade in a rifle. Sure it's cheaper, but you will trade off a lot of good rifles and you will find yourself wishing you had some of them back. Just keep them all and take up target shooting.

    Just my 2 cents.
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