One of the men I allowed to shoot my 1893 32-40 BP the other week, phoned me today.
He has come into possession of an 1894 Winchester in 32-40.
I havent seen it but he described it to me.
Definityely a rifle not a carbine
long round barrel and the gun is lighter than other 1894's he has handled
serial # 11 (some sort of mark) then 147
Gone to a light brown patina.
Can anyone out there help me identifying the year of this rifle and any info on it.
It came with 20 pkts of John Wayne ammo for the caliber.
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Hey there Chris -- If it is in fact a six digit serial number, looks like it might be from 1898. Does it have a 26" barrel? Most of my older Winchesters had what appears to be an "L" for the number "one" in serial numbers. As always, some good close up pictures would really help with an identification. Best regards. Wind
That John Wayne ammo sells for good money.
Next week I came back with 11 rounds of 32/40 in the JW Box and gave it to him he said it would last him a lifetime and he would get his Deer in November I bought that box of ammo at a gun show for 4or5 bucks.I did not have a 32/40 just wanted the box. But it is better used than sitting on a shelf. I went back a year later and he did get his Deer but sadly passed away just a year after thatr
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Hey there 68 -- I don't know. Maybe they were trying to economize and not have to make a number one stamp, and used the "L" figuring it was close enough. Here is what one looks like however...
Hope this helps. Best regards. Wind
I was a Winchester collector for many years and found the ONLY way to get an accurate Date of Manufacture on a Model 1894 is to get a Winchester Letter from Cody, Wy.
There is no accurate Date of Manufacture list out there. I have had 5 digit serial numbers that were made and sent to the warehouse as much as 10 years past the date shown on Madis and others year of manufacture list.
Get a letter. Itís the only way.
Hope this helps.
Part if not all of the of the issue for some serial numbers not matching Madis records is because the year is the time that the receiver was made and not necessarily the rifle.
A good example of that is that one such a 32 W.S. had a receiver that dated to 1896 but the completed rifle wasn't sent to the whse. until after 1902, the year of the introduction of the 32 W.S.
Receivers went into the whse and it might have been several years before they were made into a rifle. Obviously, Winchester didn't use the current philosophy adopted by many manufacturing companies for managing inventory........ "first in first out".
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Savage did the same thing as Winchester in making the receivers then sending them to the warehouse for later assembly. My Savage 99EG has a lever boss code indicating 1952 mfg but a
letter from Mr. Brophy indicated mine was then assembled in 1956 but did not ship to a customer until 1962. My guess is it didn't ship until 1962 due to the introduction of the .308 Win in
the 99 taking a lot of the steam away from my .300 Savage 99EG and others like it. The .308 Win was introduced in 1952 by Winchester in their Model 70 Featherweight with a lot of glitz
and glamour in their advertising. Guys who wanted a lever action 99 Savage had to wait till Savage made the necessary lengthing modications required for the longer .308 Win. The difference was an astounding 0.144" increase over the .300 Savage. Also the .308 was loaded to higher pressures (52,000 CUP vs 46,000 CUP) The Savage action took it all in stride with no modifications in strength, only in length. Sorry for digressing on your question.
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You are correct. That is why I am saying to date an 1894 correctly you have to get a letter. I have an example.
I had an 1894 with the S/N 20xx. Acording to Madis and other list this gun was made in first year of production 1894. It was not.It was sent to the warehouse 2-11-1895 and shipped 2-12-1895.
This is a picture of that rifle;