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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    I went to the range last Wednesday. I reloaded 356W using the instruction in the Hornady #8 manual to the letter. My load was Win. cases, WLR primers, 43.0gr. of H4895, 200gr.FTX bullets. All were at suggested C.O.A.L. I hand feed the rounds into the chamber fired them and they were accurate. I put one into the tube mag. of the Win. 94AE and cycled the rifle. They was a little long in my 94AE 356W and wouldn't cycle. I made 50 rounds at this length and I was at the range so I used them up. My next 356W loads I will make up a few dummy rounds to see how short to make the C.O.A.L. so they will work through the action.

    Here is 3 shots after sighting in.

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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    My 356 is a Marlin and I shoot 220 gr flat points.

    My 358 is a Savage 99F and I shoot 250 gr in it.

    Both rounds tend to smack with authority. If possible, I would keep both. The 358 has an edge at longer ranges.
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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    If Marlin would chamber the MX7 in 358 Win, I would be on it like a rat on a Cheeto!

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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    Hey RD, send an action to Dangerous Dan and have one made for ya. He rebarreled one of mine to a 22-250 and I just sent another one to him to rechamber to the 7mm08AI and bed in a Boyds stock. DP
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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    Quote Originally Posted by dpe.ahoy
    Hey RD, send an action to Dangerous Dan and have one made for ya. He rebarreled one of mine to a 22-250 and I just sent another one to him to rechamber to the 7mm08AI and bed in a Boyds stock. DP
    Why a 7mm-08 AI just buy a 280 Rem.??
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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    Already have three 280's and five 7mm08's in the house. This is different, main reason. Ok, only reason. DP
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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    Quote Originally Posted by dpe.ahoy
    Already have three 280's and five 7mm08's in the house. This is different, main reason. Ok, only reason. DP
    Hey that's a great reason I wish I thought of that reason. I have a Rem. 700 silhouette 7mm/08 it has a 24" bull barrel. I have seen one go for $1,300.00 on GB but in 308W. So this rifle will stay as is. But I do like your reasoning.

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    Re: The .356 and the .358?

    Quote Originally Posted by 308/338
    Why a 7mm-08 AI just buy a 280 Rem.??
    Could be that the 280 requires a longer action than the 7-08.
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    In a bolt action, or a BLR (basically a bolt action with a lever) the .358win can be loaded to higher pressures. The original loads for the .358win were held to lower pressures than say a .243 or .308win. In the .358win Ramshots TAC is the powder, John Barsness a writer for Rifle and Hanloader magazine wrote an article a couple of years ago about the .338 Federal and .358win. Using a Ruger Hawkeye with a 22" barrel 52grs of Tac(Max load!!!!) a 200gr Hornady S.P. with a magnum primer he recorded 2,750fps with no pressure signs. He used the Magnum primer because it raises pressures in cases with limited powder capacity and spherical double based powders are a little harder to ignite. Ramshot recomends magnum primers in the .338 Federal with their spherical powders.

    This is where the .358win is really at as far as its true potential, around 60-62 thousand psi, and those speeds are truly impressive. I ran that same load, except with a Rem core-lokt S.P. and it was a little hot in my BLR(little bit sticky extraction) but i did substitue the bullet.

    Many people believe that the only benefit from a spire point bullet is flatter trajectory but it also will have a delayed expansion as compared to a round nose so there are other benefits.

    In essence the 356 and 358 win are two peas in a pod, unless you are using a stronger rifle, then the .358win goes from a great cartridge to one of truly amazing qualitites. Is this enough to really notice in the field? I strongly doubt it, unless you are shooting big animals at kind of far distances (200-300yds) but there are other cartridges that would fit that bill a litltle better

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    Oh yeah, if you want a great 7mm cartridge for a short action try a 7mm SAUM in a Rem model seven. Its a 280AI in a short action, mine is synthetic/stainless and cost a lot less than a custom. I reload so ammo is not an issue brass is easy to get and even Lapua makes brass for the 300 SAUM so one can get great brass....


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